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Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 05:24 PM
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http://www.lautenberg.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=341435&“It is outrageous that anyone, even a known terrorist, can walk into a store in America and buy explosives without any questions asked,” said Senator Lautenberg. “If we are serious about public safety, we must put these common-sense safeguards in place. While the police have not revealed what specific explosive materials were used in Boston, what we do know is that explosive powder is too easy to anonymously purchase across the country.” We don't even know what the bomb was made of yet, but he's ready to ban what COULD have been used. How about propane, butane, gasoline, kerosene, fertilizer, etc.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 05:34 PM
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There are EXTREMELY powerful explosives that can be made from some common materials that would not be considered explosive at all. Someone with a rudimentary understanding of chemistry can make some serious stuff in their garage.
You can make TATP with peroxide, acetone, and hcl acid.
Shoot, you can make some low energy explosive from sugar and stump remover.
They would have to regulate or outlaw way too many things to make any real difference.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 05:42 PM
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There are EXTREMELY powerful explosives that can be made from some common materials that would not be considered explosive at all. Someone with a rudimentary understanding of chemistry can make some serious stuff in their garage.
You can make TATP with peroxide, acetone, and hcl acid.
Shoot, you can make some low energy explosive from sugar and stump remover.
They would have to regulate or outlaw way too many things to make any real difference. Most of us know that, but this is a good reason to ban/restrict the sale of gun powder and restrict the numbers of bullets any one person can buy.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 06:13 PM
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Bingo on both points. This would make absolutely no difference in an individuals ability to make a bomb, but would hinder gun owners.
On the front end, how many of you would want an arbitrary limit on the number of rounds you can legally buy? (Pretending it's actually in stock!) I'm sure they would propose to limit powder, ammunition (wouldn't want you to pull bullets and collect powder for a bomb!), background checks...
Which, in my mind, always leads to back door registration. To limit an individual to a certain amount of ammo purchases, they would have to create a national ammunition registry to prevent you from hopping store to store... From there, perhaps they limit you to ammunition for guns YOU own. (Wouldn't want you to buy your limit in every caliber possible, do build a bomb with!)
"Oh, you want 100 rounds of 9mm? No problem. Fill out this registry with your 9mm firearm information so that you can legally buy this 9mm ammunition."
Sorry, I over think things...
To clarify, I don't believe any of this is going to happen, as I didn't expect any of the recent "gun control" (my guns are all pretty easy to control... I tell them DON'T MOVE... And they don't!) bills to pass. However, I also believed they wouldn't and will not pass, because the majority of gun owners remain diligent in staying informed of what is happening, has happened, and may happen... And remain vocal.
Last edited by cdoan02; 04/19/13 06:48 PM.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 06:15 PM
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This is funny cause it is aimed at stopping terrorists and criminals from getting it but the two suspects in the boston bombing had no criminal history.
I am getting really sick and tired of these knee jerk reaction laws. Seems like this country is starting to be run on emotions more than logic.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 06:27 PM
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This is funny cause it is aimed at stopping terrorists and criminals from getting it but the two suspects in the boston bombing had no criminal history.
I am getting really sick and tired of these knee jerk reaction laws. Seems like this country is starting to be run on emotions more than logic. X 1000
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 07:39 PM
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"Common sense safeguards"
Seems to be the catch phrase du jour for politicians. They can't seem to say it enough and it's just as much BS whether they have a D or an R next to their name.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 07:42 PM
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"common sense"= a polititions opinion - fact.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 08:34 PM
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/19/13 10:20 PM
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That's what they should've pushed for all along. The guns aren't killing people, it's the crazy bastids that shouldn't be allowed to own them in the first place.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/20/13 02:44 AM
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First thing first, smokeless powder is NOT an explosive. It is a PROPELLANT!
If it is allowed to be demonized as an 'explosive', it only helps their case with the know-nothings. ANYONE calling it an explosive needs to be corrected immediately. To me, it's just like someone calling an AR15 an "assault rifle", or a magazine a "clip". Words mean something.
But yeah, some simple home chemistry can yield some pretty nasty stuff, worse than gunpowder. It all boils down to, "where there's a will there's a way".
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/20/13 03:22 AM
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Actually it is an explosive, a low explosive. Just like all propellants. Why would they use BP or smokeless when they could use tannerite instead? You know, the same stuff they are killing us with in Afghanistan.
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/20/13 03:52 AM
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Actually it is an explosive, a low explosive. Just like all propellants. Why would they use BP or smokeless when they could use tannerite instead? You know, the same stuff they are killing us with in Afghanistan. patience, you're a visionary.  
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Re: Already, the push to ban/regulate gun powder is using victims of the bombing...
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04/20/13 12:39 PM
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On a serious note, just wait guys. They are going to put a stop to buying and selling gun powder for reloading, and since all ammo has gun powder in it, they're going to push for a limit on ammo because if you get enough of it, you could make a bomb. I said this on the 17th. This will be the next way that they try to control us.
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