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Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 08:47 PM
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Comparing Tikka T3 lite 300 win mag and Remington 700sps 300 win mag. The price about same($25 more with remington). T3 come with 24inches barrel and 700 come with 26inches(not bull).I guess T3 is free floating, 700sps is not.
Please help me to pick and explain. Thank you.
Last edited by Tx Rifleman; 04/15/13 08:47 PM.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 08:58 PM
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You will get a little less velocity with the 24" barrell but you will get a WAY better gun with the tikka. Tikka's 1 MOA guarantee has proved to me they are a good gun. The worst 5 shot group out of 3 has been .625 or 5/8ths of an inch.
The tikka looks and feels cheesy till you start shooting it. It is awesome.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 09:07 PM
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You will get a little less velocity with the 24" barrell but you will get a WAY better gun with the tikka. Tikka's 1 MOA guarantee has proved to me they are a good gun. The worst 5 shot group out of 3 has been .625 or 5/8ths of an inch.
The tikka looks and feels cheesy till you start shooting it. It is awesome. Thanks, that is nice group. I think 2 inches shorter barrel may not make BIG difference under 500 yards, Am I right?
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 09:15 PM
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 09:39 PM
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sorry, look like the Tikka Lite doesn't come with Free Floating.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 10:06 PM
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Re: Tikka x free floating barrel... I'll take a Tikka 100 times out of 100 opportunities to NOT have to take a chance on the 50+ year history of a proven potentialy dangerous Remington trigger having a misfire ...
Just sayin' ..when the Remington Trigger's DESIGNER sez to Management ...It ain't Good To Go and is gonna 'cause some problems in Court when some folks get hurt or worse...and Remington's management ignores that warning on purpose...same kinda thing like GM did with Chevy PickUp Gas Tanks dangerous design so they wouldn't have to spend minor bux Ummm $7 x's a gazillion previously mfg'ed Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton pickup I think it was...and waited until a completely new frame design was used to correct the problem for like 10 years... Remington's trigger problems go back to the design of the 721, 722 & Model 700. Ask any gunsmith ...or knowledgable attorney.
OBTW Didja know that a Remington 700 is the only rifle in history of the State of Texas to put a bullet in the Ceiling of the Travis County Courthouse when the Remington Lawyer dropped the loaded gun on it's butt accidentally that was the center of a serious lawsuit and it WENT OFF with the SAFETY ENGAGED...THAT's in the Court Records... Cheers Ron
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 10:33 PM
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Re: Tikka x free floating barrel... I'll take a Tikka 100 times out of 100 opportunities to NOT have to take a chance on the 50+ year history of a proven potentialy dangerous Remington trigger having a misfire ...
Just sayin' ..when the Remington Trigger's DESIGNER sez to Management ...It ain't Good To Go and is gonna 'cause some problems in Court when some folks get hurt or worse...and Remington's management ignores that warning on purpose...same kinda thing like GM did with Chevy PickUp Gas Tanks dangerous design so they wouldn't have to spend minor bux Ummm $7 x's a gazillion previously mfg'ed Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton pickup I think it was...and waited until a completely new frame design was used to correct the problem for like 10 years... Remington's trigger problems go back to the design of the 721, 722 & Model 700. Ask any gunsmith ...or knowledgable attorney.
OBTW Didja know that a Remington 700 is the only rifle in history of the State of Texas to put a bullet in the Ceiling of the Travis County Courthouse when the Remington Lawyer dropped the loaded gun on it's butt accidentally that was the center of a serious lawsuit and it WENT OFF with the SAFETY ENGAGED...THAT's in the Court Records... Cheers Ron thank you for share the infomation, most people like Tikka here
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/15/13 11:08 PM
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Don't get me wrong...T3 Tikka's ain't perfect either.
Go find a SAKO A7 for about $100 bux mo money and get some upgrades in the SAKO version of the T3...like the by pass button that allows the A7 & Model 85 Sako bolts to be opened with a loaded chamber and the trigger locked ala the Winchester Model 70 Safety' middle position. I understand that WBy Vanguard S2's & now new Kimber CRF rifles all have a lockable trigger and allow access to the loaded chamber.
I saw on "another channel" the other day where a discussion of whether or not to order a new style 3 postion Kimber safety was still possible to replace the original 2 stage safety and at what price...the moral of the story is the same though... The Gun must not be able to fire with the trigger locked...whether the bolt is capable of opening a loaded chamber or not.
I will not hunt or shoot with a gun I don't trust not to fire until I PULL THE TRIGGER. PERIOD
Even though it is not "common" for the Remmy 700's to have this problem, it can and does happen often enough that it is an issue for me and anyone I hunt around.
Too many years ago to think about I stumbled onto a super cherry post WW II commercial Mauser with the highly desirable 400 Series receiver that is known to have this same Issue from time to time...I didn't believe this one would do it until I was able to gently coax a round to fire out of the supposedly locked trigger by bumping the butt on the bottom of deer stand with the barrel pointed vertically on a wooden floor 4-5 times and put a hole in the roof of the blind...and the gun did not go home with me from the deer lease and the dealer that got it got told about the problem and sez he could fix it if I wanted to keep the cherry piece...NOt!! Fool me once ...was enough since I used this beautiful old Mauser for my kids, like the Doctor in the Travis County court case did when the accident with the Remmy 700 happened that seriously injured his son. Cheers Ron
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 02:43 AM
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sorry, look like the Tikka Lite doesn't come with Free Floating. No, but that does affect the accuracy at all. Tikka T3 Lite .308
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 03:02 AM
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 03:10 AM
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I believe the Tikka has a detachable magazine.
Doesn't the SPS have a fixed mag plate like the ADL?
My ADL bends the tip of my bullets when I empty them by cycling (the only way to get them out). It has to hurt the accuracy.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 03:36 AM
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I've always liked Remington 700's, have owned several, and own one now. However, I also own a Tikka T3 Lite in .308 and I would have to recommend it over the Remington. Silky smooth bolt and is insanely accurate out of the box. Incidentally, my Tikka is free floated and came that way from the factory.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 05:49 AM
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Re: Tikka x free floating barrel... I'll take a Tikka 100 times out of 100 opportunities to NOT have to take a chance on the 50+ year history of a proven potentialy dangerous Remington trigger having a misfire ...
Just sayin' ..when the Remington Trigger's DESIGNER sez to Management ...It ain't Good To Go and is gonna 'cause some problems in Court when some folks get hurt or worse...and Remington's management ignores that warning on purpose...same kinda thing like GM did with Chevy PickUp Gas Tanks dangerous design so they wouldn't have to spend minor bux Ummm $7 x's a gazillion previously mfg'ed Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton pickup I think it was...and waited until a completely new frame design was used to correct the problem for like 10 years... Remington's trigger problems go back to the design of the 721, 722 & Model 700. Ask any gunsmith ...or knowledgable attorney.
OBTW Didja know that a Remington 700 is the only rifle in history of the State of Texas to put a bullet in the Ceiling of the Travis County Courthouse when the Remington Lawyer dropped the loaded gun on it's butt accidentally that was the center of a serious lawsuit and it WENT OFF with the SAFETY ENGAGED...THAT's in the Court Records... Cheers
Ron Well, this post is mostly obsolete since Remington changed their trigger several years ago. Furthermore, most of the evil unsafe triggers you speak of had been adjusted by folks that had no business doing it. Buy whichever gun fits you better. Don't listen to this trigger nonsense. New SPSs have the new trigger btw.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 12:42 PM
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Re: Tikka x free floating barrel... I'll take a Tikka 100 times out of 100 opportunities to NOT have to take a chance on the 50+ year history of a proven potentialy dangerous Remington trigger having a misfire ...
Just sayin' ..when the Remington Trigger's DESIGNER sez to Management ...It ain't Good To Go and is gonna 'cause some problems in Court when some folks get hurt or worse...and Remington's management ignores that warning on purpose...same kinda thing like GM did with Chevy PickUp Gas Tanks dangerous design so they wouldn't have to spend minor bux Ummm $7 x's a gazillion previously mfg'ed Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton pickup I think it was...and waited until a completely new frame design was used to correct the problem for like 10 years... Remington's trigger problems go back to the design of the 721, 722 & Model 700. Ask any gunsmith ...or knowledgable attorney.
OBTW Didja know that a Remington 700 is the only rifle in history of the State of Texas to put a bullet in the Ceiling of the Travis County Courthouse when the Remington Lawyer dropped the loaded gun on it's butt accidentally that was the center of a serious lawsuit and it WENT OFF with the SAFETY ENGAGED...THAT's in the Court Records... Cheers
Ron Well, this post is mostly obsolete since Remington changed their trigger several years ago. Furthermore, most of the evil unsafe triggers you speak of had been adjusted by folks that had no business doing it. Buy whichever gun fits you better. Don't listen to this trigger nonsense. New SPSs have the new trigger btw. And they now put a coating on the screws to determine if they have been turned. I have 721s, 722s and 700s and have had many others and never had a problem.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 01:51 PM
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Re: Tikka x free floating barrel... I'll take a Tikka 100 times out of 100 opportunities to NOT have to take a chance on the 50+ year history of a proven potentialy dangerous Remington trigger having a misfire ...
Just sayin' ..when the Remington Trigger's DESIGNER sez to Management ...It ain't Good To Go and is gonna 'cause some problems in Court when some folks get hurt or worse...and Remington's management ignores that warning on purpose...same kinda thing like GM did with Chevy PickUp Gas Tanks dangerous design so they wouldn't have to spend minor bux Ummm $7 x's a gazillion previously mfg'ed Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton pickup I think it was...and waited until a completely new frame design was used to correct the problem for like 10 years... Remington's trigger problems go back to the design of the 721, 722 & Model 700. Ask any gunsmith ...or knowledgable attorney.
OBTW Didja know that a Remington 700 is the only rifle in history of the State of Texas to put a bullet in the Ceiling of the Travis County Courthouse when the Remington Lawyer dropped the loaded gun on it's butt accidentally that was the center of a serious lawsuit and it WENT OFF with the SAFETY ENGAGED...THAT's in the Court Records... Cheers
Ron Well, this post is mostly obsolete since Remington changed their trigger several years ago. Furthermore, most of the evil unsafe triggers you speak of had been adjusted by folks that had no business doing it. Buy whichever gun fits you better. Don't listen to this trigger nonsense. New SPSs have the new trigger btw. Yep.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 02:24 PM
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A month ago I would have suggested Remington, because in a Magnum round I will always go for the heavier rifle to take up some of the recoil.
But since Remington has proved that they are willing to take kick backs to stay in an Anti-2A state, I will not support them or suggest them.
Go for the Tikka.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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04/16/13 02:53 PM
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Both are too light for my taste in that caliber. Unless you feel like scope eye is a good look for you.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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Both are good weapons. I'd go for the Tikka as I already have a few 700s but in BDL. The T3 lite and SPS are rather light guns and in 300WM you will feel it. But for a lite back country rifle I'd go with the Tikka 300WM as not much recoil is felt when staring down a big animal.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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A month ago I would have suggested Remington, because in a Magnum round I will always go for the heavier rifle to take up some of the recoil.
But since Remington has proved that they are willing to take kick backs to stay in an Anti-2A state, I will not support them or suggest them.
Go for the Tikka. Kickbacks? Name one mfg company over 50mill that doesn't get and take incentives? Should we ban colt from moving to breckenridge..if you dont think they were lured there with monwy incentives your crazy. I image remmington will be moving peice by peice. In the mean time dont forget were smith&wesson, savage, mossberg, rest of colt and marlin are located. Ironically we will buy a Finland made rifle, which has 10x the gun control and registration the north east has.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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Tikka and Sako are very good rifles right out of the box.
I'm surprised that the price of the Remington is even close. As i think the Remington is not as good and will typically need a trigger job as soon as you get it.
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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Tikka and Sako are very good rifles right out of the box.
I'm surprised that the price of the Remington is even close. As i think the Remington is not as good and will typically need a trigger job as soon as you get it. Just a thought but I don't think I have ever shot a factory trigger out of the box that was worth a flip.....
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Re: Help to pick Tikka T3 lite .300win mag or Remington 700sps
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Tikka and Sako are very good rifles right out of the box.
I'm surprised that the price of the Remington is even close. As i think the Remington is not as good and will typically need a trigger job as soon as you get it. Just a thought but I don't think I have ever shot a factory trigger out of the box that was worth a flip..... TC ICON and the CZ527 both had very good triggers out of the box. Really my first Remington rifle had a good crisp 3lb trigger out of the box but that is a 788. The Tikka trigger ain't a jewel but sure is nice compared to lots of other triggers out there.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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