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 Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 07:54 PM
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They already make your wildcat it's called a 264 Winchester Mag.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 08:11 PM
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They already make your wildcat it's called a 264 Winchester Mag. I've already got a 7 mag. I guess velocity, on this one, is not as important to me. 260 vs 6.5-06??? Which one???? Do I need a 26" barrel in the 6.5-06 to justify it over the 260? I'd really prefer to keep the barrel at 24" or even 22". 260 will probably have better resale value if I lose interest because of factory ammo availability.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 08:46 PM
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Have had no problems stabilizing 140gr VLDs from 2700fps to 2900fps in a 1:9 barreled 6.5-284 Who makes a 1-9 twist factory 260? Is the 1-8 a custom only? Savage lists their twist rates. Dont know if Tikka or Remington do. I know Tikka lists their twist rates and the one I mentioned in this post is for a Cooper rifle. When talking with Cooper Arms before making the purchase they said their barrels stabilize the 142gr Serria Match Kings without issues and that is the bullet they most often use for the provided test targets with their 6.5 rifles
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 08:57 PM
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I'm afraid the 1 in 8 won't shoot the 120's very good, but wanted to make sure the 1 in 9 would do well with the 130's and 140's. Thats most likely going to be the case. 1:8 would over stabilize the 120's and scatter them everywhere on the paper. Just out of curiosity, why do you want to shoot 120's? For my daughter and wife Well in that case I dont understand why you want to hand them a long action anything. A. 260 with a suppressor is about as sweet as it gets. My 15 year old stepson shot my braked. 308 at 13 years old, then braked. 260. The first time he shot my suppressed. 260 he said " that's cool! Its not loud and it hardly has any recoil". Right after he rang a 66% IPSC at 700 yards three times.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 08:58 PM
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Why get a 26" barrel when you can have a 22"
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:02 PM
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They already make your wildcat it's called a 264 Winchester Mag. I've already got a 7 mag. I guess velocity, on this one, is not as important to me. 260 vs 6.5-06??? Which one???? Do I need a 26" barrel in the 6.5-06 to justify it over the 260? I'd really prefer to keep the barrel at 24" or even 22". 260 will probably have better resale value if I lose interest because of factory ammo availability. both have the same case, one is a .284 and one is a .264 other than that they are identical
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:16 PM
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Why get a 26" barrel when you can have a 22" I don't want a 26" barrel, no more than 24" and 22" would be better. If I can get almost the same performance from a 22" barrel 260 vs a 24" 6.5-06 then I'll probably go with the 260. If a 24" 6.5-06 is considerably better than a 22-24" 260, then I'd probably lean towards the 6.5-06.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:32 PM
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A 260 will do anything you want to do, and more. It is a VERY good cartidge, and yields very good ballistics with the 140 grain match bullets, and a good hunting round. Load a 120 or 123 A-max, even a 140 A-max, and you can get both.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:35 PM
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If you want your wife and daughter to shoot it and a 22-24" barrel I think you have answered your own question, go 260.
A 6.5-06 chucking a hot 140 is gonna kick just as much as a 30-06 chucking a 150 and same same as a 270. The 260 should be a step down in recoil and should do what you want in the package you want it in.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:38 PM
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:50 PM
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Someone on here built a 6.5x300 ultra I think, but seems a little outlandish.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 09:57 PM
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How hard is it to find 260 brass right now? If I use my brass, which would be better/easier to use? Neck up 243 or neck down 308?
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 10:14 PM
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In a modern action, the 6.5x55 will outrun the .260, although it does require a long action. It is just a neat round. I am getting 3000+ with 120's in my CZ. Running a bit over 2900 with 129 Hornady's. haven't loaded heavier as I haven't needed them. A 120 Ballistic tip did all I needed on a nice Axis buck at 165 yards. Several deer and antelope have fallen to either the BT or the Hornady bullets.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 10:19 PM
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In a modern action, the 6.5x55 will outrun the .260, although it does require a long action. It is just a neat round. I am getting 3000+ with 120's in my CZ. Running a bit over 2900 with 129 Hornady's. haven't loaded heavier as I haven't needed them. A 120 Ballistic tip did all I needed on a nice Axis buck at 165 yards. Several deer and antelope have fallen to either the BT or the Hornady bullets. How did the ballistic tip penetrate? Did you shoot behind the shoulder or thru it?
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 10:23 PM
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Drop Tine: Have you considered the 6.5-06AI. That would allow you to use the brass you already have and once you fireform it in the AI chamber, there will be no issues of confusing it with your 270 loads.
the 6.5-06 is a wildcat, too, so you will have to be reloading anyway. And another advantage of AI cartridges is that the brass doesn't stretch as much so you "never" have to trim cases. Just a thought...
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/10/13 11:53 PM
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I've got a 260 that I bought for the wife. She was thinking about pig hunting, but never really got into it. So I hunted with it for a while, though being a '270 guy' I wasn't expecting to be impressed with the puny little 260. As a couple of years and hunting seasons came and went, I found myself preferring the 260 to the 270 (and I hate myself for it). I loaded the Nosler 120 gr Ballistic Tip over Reloader 17 and everything I shot fell just as fast as if I'd shot them with the 270. And everything I read says that the 260 is a great target round with long barrel life. It's only when you want 3000 fps or more from anything 120 grains or over in a 22 inch barrel that it falls a bit short.
And worry not about the twist being too fast for 120 or 100 grainers. They shoot just fine in my rifle (at 400 yards and less).
And if you want brass, just think about the truckloads of 243 and 308 and 7-08 out there that you can neck up or down.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 12:10 AM
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I've got a 260 that I bought for the wife. She was thinking about pig hunting, but never really got into it. So I hunted with it for a while, though being a '270 guy' I wasn't expecting to be impressed with the puny little 260. As a couple of years and hunting seasons came and went, I found myself preferring the 260 to the 270 (and I hate myself for it). I loaded the Nosler 120 gr Ballistic Tip over Reloader 17 and everything I shot fell just as fast as if I'd shot them with the 270. And everything I read says that the 260 is a great target round with long barrel life. It's only when you want 3000 fps or more from anything 120 grains or over in a 22 inch barrel that it falls a bit short.
And worry not about the twist being too fast for 120 or 100 grainers. They shoot just fine in my rifle (at 400 yards and less).
And if you want brass, just think about the truckloads of 243 and 308 and 7-08 out there that you can neck up or down. I just put one of my 308's up for trade a few minutes ago....for a 260 Remington. I've got a Remington 700 5r 308 to fall back on if the 260 doesn't impress me. But from what I'm hearing here on this thread and what I can find on-line, I think I'm gonna love it!
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 12:17 AM
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Order a 6.5mm barrel, have it threaded for your action and enjoy.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 12:29 AM
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Order a 6.5mm barrel, have it threaded for your action and enjoy. Who does that around here and about how much will that run me?
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 12:52 AM
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There are several around that do that type of work. Shillen in Gun Barrel City dose it and I think has the price list on their site. Titian weapons is a member of the THF using the handle THEBBC http://www.titanweapons.com/
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 01:05 AM
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I shoot the 140amax at 2850 out of a 26" Bartlien barrel 1/8 twist.
Buddy shoots a savage with a 1/8 and uses the 120s with good success.
You want 7mm-08 brass if your gonna neck down brass.
There's several smiths around for re-barrel. Figure 375 for the barrel and 400 for truing action, chambering, and threading a new barrel on. Wait time will depend on the smith.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 01:07 AM
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Why not go with a 7mm higher bc same or better sd and you can get plenty of powder in a 7 mag if you desire more step up to a 7mm stw i am running a 25" bbl on my 7 mag pushing a 168 at 2970 and a 180 gr at 2925
both have a bc over .615 and a sd over .315
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 01:26 AM
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Order a 6.5mm barrel, have it threaded for your action and enjoy. Who does that around here and about how much will that run me? Bud of mine does it in Anna and does superb work. Truing the action is good but not absolutely necessary. None of my actions have been trued and they are tack drivers. Look at bugholes.com for barrels shipped to your door.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 01:45 AM
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260 is like a barrel of monkeys for a handloader. I
can't wait to get a 6.5 Grendel some day so I can crossload
and develop ammo using the same bullets.
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Re: 6.5 mm/.264
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04/11/13 01:47 AM
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I have a 6.5X270 and love it. I also shoot a 270 but with my 6.5 I have to turn the necks down so it's easy to identify the 2 and they have never been mixed up. Anything you get in a 6.5 will be awesome. Have you looked at the 6.5X47 Lapua?? Has great ballistics.
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