I think a better variation then the black talons are Federal HSTs. They mushroom out and perform slightly better than black talons with similar claws pattern but their copper looking instead of black since their not Lubalox coated. The claws expand out to about 1 inch diameter too and will do some damage no doubt. I use them for my 45 ACP.

Back to your question, they are legal but, while none of us ever wants to find out, in court they may color the image of our intent if used.

While I do agree that the HST are just as good (if not better) than the Talons, the HST does not produce the claws (or "talons") that the Black Talon does. In fact it doesnt produce any claw or talon what so ever.

Here are a couple I tested for refrence. Take a look at the claws or "talons" on the end of each petal of the Black Talon. The HST petal just peels straight back with no claw or "talon" on the end of the petal.

My tests looked exactly like yours. Win Ranger SXT's preform for me just like Talons, except no Black. I've put them through sheet metal and they still open the same. Winter type clothing, two pullovers and a heavier jacket plugged the nose more often than not, leaving me with a FMJ. Cold weather makes me change to 185+P's Cor-Bons. They expand when they hit air, or so it seems to me.

Back to your question, they are legal but, while none of us ever wants to find out, in court they may color the image of our intent if used.

Re-read what I wrote. It would only apply if you were arrested or sued. A prosecutor trying to make a name for himself could say what he wants, if you can't hire a better attorney than him it could make a difference. Remember DA's are elected. In Austin, Houston or another more liberal ciy an agenda of gun control could hurt. If something happened accidentally with your gun an ambulance chaser could paint you as someone who wanted to take life by using "extra" deadly ammo. To most of us this doesn't hold water, but to those ignorant of what's happening the best attorney makes a bigger impact than the truth.
Before you call BS look at our current federal government. 10 years ago we all would have called BS on what has happened. In court the truth means little, your rights mean almost nothing. I'm not saying it's certain, only possible.
Paul

Unfortunately, I've seen what a FMJ does to human flesh and bones. Never under estimate the round you are carrying.

Your argument is valid. My supposition is based on watching from the jury box as a home improvement store was sued. The case revolved around a ladder for sale that a customer used in store and was hurt. The signage did not say not for use in store. I was an alternate juror and not allowed to decide. The injured party's attorney painted the store as evil and uncaring, while only out to make money. The fact that he used an extension ladder vertically and tipped backward had no bearing, only the lack of warning.
My opinion is based on my observations, I pray none of us ever know. We just need to watch the national gun debate to see it is about appearance not performance.
And my thoughts are unchanged. Should it make a difference what you use? Never. Will it? No one can say.