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Tresspassing, but "beneficial" coon hunters? #4130545 03/19/13 12:56 PM
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Found out a little while back that some of the area coon hunters had gone onto our property to retrieve a dog late one night.
They have never contacted me for permission to access my land- nor the adjacent landowners.
It's not an isolated occurrence. They have been on the place before although I've never caught them there.

Now the flip side. They never seem to bother/destroy anything, and I am all for less corn thieves. But I am not sure they even shoot the coons- they may just be treeing them.


So what would you do? Tell them to stay the heck off, knowing they (or their dogs) will go on our land anyway? Apparently they have been hunting the area for years.


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If somebody/anybody comes on my land, they need to let me know why. They need to do this in advance. It is the same courtesy I would extend to others.


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It's the same story with a lot of hog hunters. I know they come on my place with their dogs-I have caught one group. It's the disrespect that irks you more than the actual hunting...


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I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Tell em you expected the courtesy of at least letting you know. And maybe set up some guidlines, calling everytime to ask permission, maybe a little payment in the form of corn ect just to keep em honest and staying in touch.

Re: Tresspassing, but "beneficial" coon hunters? [Re: Nogalus Prairie] #4130591 03/19/13 01:12 PM
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If you want to thin out the coons, why not just call them and ask if they want to hunt your land certian times of the year? Tell them the only condition is they have to actually shoot the coons they tree.


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Re: Tresspassing, but "beneficial" coon hunters? [Re: Nogalus Prairie] #4130631 03/19/13 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
It's the same story with a lot of hog hunters. I know they come on my place with their dogs-I have caught one group. It's the disrespect that irks you more than the actual hunting...


Yep.
I have no sure way to contact them but I do think I can get word to them I'm not pleased. And if the neighbor catches them, he's not as "agreeable" as I am.....


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Have the same problem at our place. The disrespect and blatant trespassing is what ticks me off. I don't care if it is a coon or a hog you are still on my land, you know you are on my land, and you know permission hasn't been given.

I nearly shot one of them late one night. He was walking up through the field and came to the corner of my yard. There were some thieves that took some stuff from a neighbors barn in the general direction he came from and they also tried to steal from my barn behind the house. I don't think it was the coon hunters that stole but it dang near cost him his life.

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ALSO 1 of them could get hurt while on your place. They might assume you've got deep pockets.


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Re: Tresspassing, but "beneficial" coon hunters? [Re: CitySlickerHunter] #4130707 03/19/13 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: CitySlickerHunter
ALSO 1 of them could get hurt while on your place. They might assume you've got deep pockets.


They'd assume wrong smile

They know they don't have permission and are legally trespassing.


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Talk to them an see if they will come hunt it an kill all the coons , one hand helping the other , you might make some life long friends

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Originally Posted By: SwampHunterFw
Talk to them an see if they will come hunt it an kill all the coons , one hand helping the other , you might make some life long friends


That sounds good and all but friendship is a two way street- and trespassing is not a good way to start a friendship.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Double post sorry..

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Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


Re: Tresspassing, but "beneficial" coon hunters? [Re: Nogalus Prairie] #4130777 03/19/13 02:33 PM
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I would suggest, going out hunting yourself one night that you assume they may be there, sit and wait. then talk to them, or give someone else permision to hunt the same way and make the point known....

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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
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Talk to them an see if they will come hunt it an kill all the coons , one hand helping the other , you might make some life long friends


That sounds good and all but friendship is a two way street- and trespassing is not a good way to start a friendship.


If they been hunting for years they may not know the land has new owner , we had permission on a place an hunted it for long time well the father got sick an son took over well one night he , see us hunting an had a fit , we explained that his dad had have us permission years before, but he said he didn't want no one hunting so,

I would say talk to them an see what's goin on

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Originally Posted By: SwampHunterFw
If they been hunting for years they may not know the land has new owner , we had permission on a place an hunted it for long time well the father got sick an son took over well one night he , see us hunting an had a fit , we explained that his dad had have us permission years before, but he said he didn't want no one hunting so,

I would say talk to them an see what's goin on


They know what's going on. They also know we've owned the place for more than 3 years and the neighbor's place has been theirs for more than 75 years- no permission granted by any of us.
I realize you can't control where dogs go, but the hunters know that, too.


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Responsible hunters with dogs will contact surrounding property owners BEFORE a hunt and secure permission to retrieve errant animals. Others will just trespass as they see fit.


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Several thoughts here... What is the rule on having 'No Trespassing' signs posted re size, quantity, location?

As for having hunters on your place, we had a cow turn up limping, foot swollen to the size of a basketball. The culprit? An empty .22 case wedged up in the middle f her foot. There's no telling what can happen to anything that gets left behind.


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Have some friends recently; someone shot one of their horses took days to find it and by that time it was too late to save it. Someone else left the gates open and the horse was killed by a train. All just weeks apart.

It clearly stems for the entitlement mentality and complete lack of character. It's all about me me me....... one of these nights me is gonna get shot.


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Hunters like that give all the other dog hunters a bad name. I've heard some of them say in cafes that "they will go retrieve their dogs no matter what" and that kind rubs me wrong. I realize even the smartest dog doesn't understand fence lines and it's not their fault. But the hunters do and need to respect land owners.

You need to tell them you don't want them on the land or you don't want them there without you knowing. Put up a sign that says no trespassing and paint some fence post purple.

Or put out signs that say there is coyote poison on your property and you are not responsible for accidents. I've seen those signs before and I'd bet that dog hunters would pay more attention to their dogs if they say those signs too.

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Many Coon Hunters do not even carry a rifle..they squall or shake the coon from the tree and let the dogs kill it or run it again..I was not that type as in Winter we sold the hides..No coon hunter can control his dogs because the dog runs his nose and where the coon goes..In East Texas many times they will tree
several Coons in a relatively short area, but out here and in So.
Texas it is not unusual for the Coon to run over a mile..We used to hunt up between Medina and Kerrville on a Game Ranch..carried the owner with us one evening..The dogs ran and treed a Coon in the middle of his feeders among about 20 plus head of deer who ignored the dogs..and kept feeding..it was a full moon and we watched..afterwards the property owner was calling us to come kill his Coons because they'd empty his feeders in 1/2 the usual time. You guys may want to rethink some of your attitude and position depending on who the Coon Hunters are and how they act.DD

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Don, you always make good sense but I disagree with you on this one. It's my land and I'm not interested in someone elses sport. If a coon is on my land, it's my coon. I don't need anyone helping me to thin down coons, bass, deer, hogs, snakes or sparrows. If a person knows that a dog might come onto my land while they are hunting, they need to go elsewhere because I generally shoot stray dogs. If it's on my land, its a stray. It only takes one colt getting run into wire by dogs to understand why. Had to put the colt down.

All that said, I hate shooting dogs.

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The real proof in the pudding is if you take those same "hunters" that allow their dogs to run all over other peoples property, and you went and ran your dogs on their property you can bet they'd have a freakin' fit and would be threatening you, or calling the law on you or both. Put that shoe on the other foot and see how they like it. You'd find out real quick that it's all about a lack of respect on their part for what is yours.

I agree with all the landowners-keep your dogs, and your activities OFF private property unless you specifically have permission to hunt there. If you did not PAY for it, you don't get to PLAY ON IT.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson
Don, you always make good sense but I disagree with you on this one. It's my land and I'm not interested in someone elses sport. If a coon is on my land, it's my coon. I don't need anyone helping me to thin down coons, bass, deer, hogs, snakes or sparrows. If a person knows that a dog might come onto my land while they are hunting, they need to go elsewhere because I generally shoot stray dogs. If it's on my land, its a stray. It only takes one colt getting run into wire by dogs to understand why. Had to put the colt down.

All that said, I hate shooting dogs.


The coons on your land are NOT your coons. They belong to the state. Just because a dog is on your land does not make it a stray you can shoot legally.


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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy


The coons on your land are NOT your coons. They belong to the state. Just because a dog is on your land does not make it a stray you can shoot legally.


But the dogs were chasing his livestock. Can you prove they weren't?

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