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SCOPE PREFENCES
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02/26/13 04:28 AM
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joebobhogman
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Wanting to buy new scope, looking at nikon monarch 6-24x50 and leupold 4.5-14x50 scopes anybody have pros n cons on these scopes.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: joebobhogman]
#4083678
02/26/13 12:09 PM
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dee
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NIKON is good glass their CS/Warranty department usually doesn't get much praise. As far as the Leupold goes it would depend on which model you are looking at.
"A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: dee]
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02/26/13 01:20 PM
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timbertoes
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Minox ZA5 4-20x50 cameralandny got 1, then immediaty got a second one ! one will replace a Nikon Monarch if that tells ya something
Forum says "Veteran Tracker". I could not track a garbage truck into a fireworks factory.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: timbertoes]
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02/26/13 01:27 PM
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NewJeep
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I like the vx3 4.5-14x50 I wish I had them on all my rifles.
Live to hunt, forced to work!
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: NewJeep]
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02/26/13 01:39 PM
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Don Dial
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If you want a very good scope, one w/out any problems get a Leupold in Mark III or Mark IV, spend the extra bucks get a 3X10X50 or larger for deer at reasonable ranges..and you'll have a good late evening pc of glass also..If you want a long range varmit or target scope..look at the 8.5x25x50 Ill, w/rangefinding Rect. Mark IV..and Mil Dots..I have one on a Sako TRG that is outstanding..I can see my bullet holes at a 300 yd target I shoot on a 55 gal drum at the ranch & I'm 69 yrs.old..I had a 3x10 on a Ruger No. 1 338 Win mag I gave my nephew who was in Ak. and a former Seal Sniper..he was shooting 700 yds w/it without issue..DD
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Don Dial]
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02/26/13 02:03 PM
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Korean Redneck
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I have that monarch on a 223 tikka and the 40mm version of that leupold on my 30-06.
The only thing I don't like about the Monarch is the reticle selection. Of the 2, I think I would slightly favor my Leupold because it has the B&C reticle. Shooting the 165gr hornady superformance, i was able to hit a 12oz coke can at 271yds 3 out of 4 times. And all I did was zero @ 200yds just like the reticle said I should.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Korean Redneck]
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02/26/13 03:06 PM
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TexasVine
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Although I have both Leupold (4.5x14) and Nikon (4.5x 14), I prefer the Nikon because of the spot on software and BDC for improved accuracy.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Korean Redneck]
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02/26/13 03:10 PM
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JC8690
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If you're looking through a Monarch and a VX-III, you're probably looking through the exact same glass.
Pick the scope that you feel has the best features and reticle for your needs. I think you'll be more than pleased with either.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: JC8690]
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02/26/13 09:39 PM
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Adelbridge
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4.5-14 is going to be better for hunting 6-24 is going to be better for target
trying to find an animal at 30 yards with 6X might take too long
I have a 6-20X44 weaver on my target gun and it is magic at 100-200 yards but it would be a hindrance trying to pick off a moving animal at close range.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Adelbridge]
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02/28/13 02:13 AM
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joebobhogman
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thanks for all the info on scopes.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Fishermen0105]
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02/28/13 05:46 AM
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Fishermen0105
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I prefer the 40mm objective myself though
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Fishermen0105]
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02/28/13 12:48 PM
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caddokiller
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Very similar glass. Theleupold has a horrible field of view but great eye relief. Their customers service is 2nd to non thought. Nikon has a slightly better field of veiw but also slightly worse eye relief. If you have to send a nikon scope back for repairs be prepaird for a long wait and frusterating results. IMO there are way better options for the price with vortex, minox and or spend a little more and get the zeiss conquest. Good luck with which ever one you deciede on.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Fishermen0105]
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02/28/13 12:59 PM
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Gravytrain
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I prefer the 40mm objective myself though x2
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Gravytrain]
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02/28/13 02:30 PM
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Texsun
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I have the 4.5 x14 x50 leupy......I will never buy another scope less than 50, love it! I don't take the binocs anymore because the scope is so good in that size. You can see so much more with a big scope.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Texsun]
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02/28/13 03:27 PM
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Brother in-law
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I would choose anything but the Nikon with BDC reticle
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Gravytrain]
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02/28/13 03:33 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I prefer the 40mm objective myself though x2 X3 im a 44 or lower
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Brother in-law]
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02/28/13 03:39 PM
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COWDOG
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I would choose anything but the Nikon with BDC reticle I would agree, I bought 2 of them when they came out and thought they were the bee’s knees. I hate them now. The reticule is too cluttered. My new favorite scope is the LEUPOLD VXR patrol.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#4089433
02/28/13 04:18 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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I prefer the 40mm objective myself though x2 X3 im a 44 or lower X4 objective research/physics shows little upside to 50mm and up objectives in the vast majority of hunting applications.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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02/28/13 04:41 PM
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kmon11
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44 is the largest objective scope I own, never saw a reason for larger or to go to higher mounts.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: kmon11]
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03/01/13 05:53 AM
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gbeard
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I have bought and own several Nikon Monarchs and have always had buyers remorse. I dont know why I always tell myself that this one will be better than the last. Their field of view, eye relief, and clarity are horrible.
In my opinion Leupolds are far far better quality. I'd take a VX-1 over a piece of junk Monarch any day.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: gbeard]
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03/01/13 01:01 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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I have bought and own several Nikon Monarchs and have always had buyers remorse. I dont know why I always tell myself that this one will be better than the last. Their field of view, eye relief, and clarity are horrible.
In my opinion Leupolds are far far better quality. I'd take a VX-1 over a piece of junk Monarch any day. I have heard that a lot. I place great significance on those who buy a product yet are willing to honestly admit they are not pleased with it. That tells me something as most will defend/justify/rationalize their purchases at all costs. When I see a few people willing to share bad reviews on the same product I run the other way. That's why I am a Leupold man.
Last edited by Nogalus Prairie; 03/01/13 01:01 PM.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#4091611
03/01/13 01:41 PM
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jlbain94
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Im the second owner of a Rem 700 CDL in .270 topped with an VX3. Shot after shot, it never loses its zero. Ever. Clear as can be too. Next rifle I buy will definitely have another Leupold on it.
A man can never have enough guns.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: jlbain94]
#4092494
03/01/13 07:47 PM
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Leupold VX3 4.5-14 is a great all around use scope. Made in America. Excellenet Customer Service.
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Re: SCOPE PREFENCES
[Re: joebobhogman]
#4107614
03/08/13 01:01 AM
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Azrael
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Nikon has a hundred bucks off Monarch scopes thru 3/10/2013.
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