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Securely Storing Ammo? #4022731 02/04/13 06:11 PM
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How do you store your ammo?

With the ever increasing value of ammo due to scarcity and long term need, and the one day need to keep it away from little kids, I was thinking of investing in a large Job Box that I could lock.

I saw a nice size Rigid job box at Home Depot for $199.99. Might be a good investment to keep theives or kids out of your stash.

Once you load this box (77 lbs. empty) up with ammo and reloading supplies, I doubt a thief will cart it off very easily.

Any thoughts on this?

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: BearkatHunter2011] #4022838 02/04/13 06:49 PM
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Gun safes are good for storing that stuff


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Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: centurion2000] #4022845 02/04/13 06:50 PM
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Additional thoughts. Bolt your job box to the floor and get 200# of scrap lead to weigh it down.


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Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: centurion2000] #4022846 02/04/13 06:50 PM
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We store ours in a gun safe.




Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: quackaholic1] #4022892 02/04/13 07:00 PM
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Do yall have a seperate safe for ammo or half full safes you out ammo in?

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: cory_cooper] #4023180 02/04/13 08:37 PM
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I keep all my pistol, rifle and rim fire locked up in my safe along with my guns and magazines.

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: bigjoe8565] #4023187 02/04/13 08:42 PM
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Under my seat in my truck lol

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: Navasot] #4025291 02/05/13 03:55 PM
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No Way i could fit it all in the gun safe unless i emptied the safe of guns first. Not sure i would store ammunition in a quality safe. Its shipped in wood or cardboard for a reason.

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: jimbob] #4026940 02/06/13 12:33 AM
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Never considered the safe.... but now it wont fit anyway. Its just too much effort to move in an out to get to the ones you need if its in the safe. I just use Ammo cans and label them. Its still behind a locked door.


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I keep mine in the safe with no problems.

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: Zonker] #4076005 02/23/13 12:03 AM
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There is no way I could store all my ammo in a gun safe. Probably would take 2 of them. So, I actually store it in a Job Box.

1. First, I cut four 4x4s and placed them under the job box to support the weight.

2. Next, I cut a sheet of plywood to line the inside bottom of the job box. This will keep the metal from transfering temperature fluctuations on a cold morning. You could also use a scrap piece of carpet, but I didn't have any.

3. All of the ammo is stored by caliber in MilSpec ammo cans inside the job box...inside the garage.

I have been doing this since 2009 (so roughly 4 years). No misfires, etc. The ammo functions flawlessly like the day I bought it. Some people say that heat will degrade ammo, and it does get hot here in Texas during the summer. But I've been told that the heat has to be over 135 degrees for a very extended period of time to have any effect on ammo. It doesn't get anywhere near that hot in my garage. Maybe 110 on a really hot day for a few hours. Keep the ammo dry and it'll last at least 50 years.

PS. I also vaccuum seal the ammo before I put it in the ammo cans. Brass is as shiny as the day it was manufactured.

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: San Saba Hogman] #4076277 02/23/13 02:10 AM
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Store some in the safe and other in the closet in ammo boxes with the Plano versions.

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: rmac10] #4076649 02/23/13 05:09 AM
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I used a non-working stainless side by side fridge I got off craigslist, heli-arced a lock on it and put a few extra shelves in with a dehumidifier rod. Works awesome.


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Originally Posted By: blackhorse
I used a non-working stainless side by side fridge I got off craigslist, heli-arced a lock on it and put a few extra shelves in with a dehumidifier rod. Works awesome.


good idea.


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Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: splash556] #4076917 02/23/13 01:59 PM
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I keep my pistol ammo in a closet in the reloading room. Most of my rifle ammo is in the gun safe.

Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: elkhunter7x6] #4076998 02/23/13 02:44 PM
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Might want to consider:
A gun safe full of ammo could be a very dangerous bomb, and a violation of Fire code for storage of more than 20 lbs. Fire fighters would probabaly run from it



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DO NOT SUBJECT THE STORAGE CABINETS TO CLOSE CONFINEMENT. STORAGE CABINETS SHOULD BE CONSTRUCTED OF INSULATING MATERIALS AND WITH A WEAK WALL SEAMS OR JOINTS TO PROVIDE AN EASY MEANS OF SELF-VENTING.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/getting_started/safety/storage_handling.aspx




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From Hodgdon's Website:
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National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) Guidelines
Note: Pyrodex® and Triple Seven® muzzleloading powders are not smokeless powders, but the same principles and regulations for storage apply.

13-3 SMOKELESS PROPELLANTS

13-3.1 Quantities of smokeless propellants not exceeding 25 lb (11.3 kg), in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation, shall be permitted to be transported in a private vehicle.

13-3.2 Quantities of smokeless propellants exceeding 25 lb (11.3 kg) but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), transported in a private vehicle, shall be transported in a portable magazine having wood walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.

13-3.3 Transportation of more than 50 lb (22.7 kg) of smokeless propellants in a private vehicle shall be prohibited.

13-3.4 Commercial shipments of smokeless powder for small arms which has been classed in Division 1.3 shall be permitted to be reclassed as Division 4.1 Flammable Solid for transportation purposes for shipment by motor vehicle, rail car, vessel, or cargo-only aircraft, subject to the conditions stated in the U.S. Department of Transportation "Hazardous Materials Regulations," 49 CFR 173.171.

13-3.5 Commercial shipments of smokeless propellants exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg) or not packaged in accordance with the regulations cited in 13-3.4 shall be transported in accordance with the U.S. Department of Transportation regulations for Class B propellant explosives.

13-3.6 Smokeless propellants shall be stored in shipping containers specified by U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations.

13-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), shall be permitted to be stored in residences where kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.

13-3.8 Not more than 50 lb (22.7 kg) of smokeless propellants, in containers of 1 lb (0.45 kg) maximum capacity, shall be displayed in commercial establishments.

13-3.9 Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants shall be stored as follows:

(1) Quantities exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), but not exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) thickness.

(2) Quantities exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), but not exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having walls of at least 1 in (25.4 mm) thickness. Not more than 400 lb (181 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in any one cabinet, and cabinets shall be separated by a distance of at least 25 ft (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.

(3) Quantities exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), but not exceeding 5,000 lb (2268 kg), shall be permitted to be stored in a building, provided the following requirements are met:

(a). The warehouse or storage room shall not be accessible to unauthorized personnel.

(b). Smokeless propellant shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having wood walls at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) thickness and having shelves with no more than 3 ft. (0.92 m) of separation between shelves.

(c). No more than 400 lb. (181 kg) shall be stored in any one cabinet..

(d). Cabinets shall be located against the walls of the storage room or warehouse with at least 40 ft (12.2 m) between cabinets.

(e). The separation between cabinets shall be permitted to be reduced to 20 ft (6.1 m) where barricades twice the height of the cabinets are attached to the wall, midway between each cabinet. The barricades shall extend at least 10 ft. (3 m) outward, shall be firmly attached to the wall, and shall be constructed of 1/4 in. (6.4 mm) boiler plate, 2 in. (51 mm) thick wood, brick, or concrete block.

(f). Smokeless propellant shall be separated from materials classified by the U.S. Department of Transportation as flammable liquids, flammable solids, and oxidizing materials by a distance of 25 ft. (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.

(g). The building shall be protected by an automatic sprinkler system installed in accordance with NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems.

(4) Smokeless propellants not stored in accordance with 13.3.9 (1), (2), and (3) shall be stored in a Type 4 magazine constructed and located in accordance with Chapter 8.

Reprinted from NFPA495-85, Standard for the Manufacture, Transportation, Storage and Use of Explosive Materials, © 2001, National Fire Protection Association, Quincy, MA 02269. This reprinted material is not the complete and official position of the NFPA on the referenced subject, which is represented by the Standard in its entirety.

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Re: Securely Storing Ammo? [Re: jeh7mmmag] #4078297 02/24/13 03:18 AM
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