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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: 00possum] #4058091 02/16/13 02:44 PM
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Drum roll please! roflmao

OOpossum - you gave up, but you fought the good fight! up

IMHO Each has it's pro's & con's and depending on the circumstances one may be a better choice over the other.....

For what it's worth for years I carried an .06 AND .308 to the Rockies on hunting trips. I've still got one of each and shot just about everything but bear with both of them at ranges out to 300+. Even though the .06 can be loaded up with heavier bullets and push a bit faster, I can't really see the difference is enough for me to worry about. confused2

nidea Maybe it's degrees of dead!

Calibers less than .30 = Dead
.30 Cal = Deader
Calibers over .30 = Deadest

Magnums = Dead +P

(...for grins - 22.250 = Deader-n-h&!! peep)

I predict that someone is going to develop another cartridge in __?___ (pick your caliber), the gun magazines are gonna write it up as the best thing since "shoestring potatoes" and everyone ought to have it. Oh - Sorry! They do that all the time now don't they?

Oh well, like I always say - "Man can't have too many guns" banana


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: Hunt n Fish] #4058362 02/16/13 04:50 PM
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If I would have been working instead of reading this thread I would have earned enough to just buy one of each.

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: Magicglock] #4058372 02/16/13 04:53 PM
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I can't believe you guys debated this for so many pages. Silly......plain silly!

My slower 30 cal is better than your faster 30 cal!

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: AlaskaCub] #4058483 02/16/13 05:36 PM
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I'm still saying it is not the cartridge, it is the rifle smile



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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: rustytxrx] #4058849 02/16/13 08:54 PM
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My super fast 30 cals beats the slow 30 cal by a long stretch popcorn

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: rifleman] #4058866 02/16/13 09:05 PM
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Well lets see....from fastest and flattest to slowest and rainbow ish

300RUM
300Roy
300 WM
300WSM
300SAUM
30-06
308

Seems pretty silly to argue back and forth about which one of the two slowest 30 cals offered in bolt action rifles is better!

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: AlaskaCub] #4059094 02/16/13 11:20 PM
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My 30 wcf (.308) is better than either one, right?

Its been kickin A$$ longer than either one of those listed.

Any of those over 30-06 produces a diminishing return, any under the 30-06 is a glorified 30-30.

If you have a 30 wcf and an 06, you have all the bases covered and more money left for beer.

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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: ItusTactical] #4059119 02/16/13 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: ItusTactical
This is fascinating to me. I'm an '06 guy and have always shot a 30-06. I love the caliber and love the recoil (I've had work done to mine though). It's interesting to read the history on the rounds. My caliber I'm playing with right now though is the 7mm Rem Mag. Talk about a flat round and some pop. SHABAM!!


Is the 7mmm Rem Mag. superior than the .30-06?

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #4059218 02/17/13 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: no-guts-no-glory
Originally Posted By: ItusTactical
This is fascinating to me. I'm an '06 guy and have always shot a 30-06. I love the caliber and love the recoil (I've had work done to mine though). It's interesting to read the history on the rounds. My caliber I'm playing with right now though is the 7mm Rem Mag. Talk about a flat round and some pop. SHABAM!!


Is the 7mmm Rem Mag. superior than the .30-06?

Its almost the same arguemnt all over again.

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #4059240 02/17/13 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: no-guts-no-glory
Originally Posted By: ItusTactical
This is fascinating to me. I'm an '06 guy and have always shot a 30-06. I love the caliber and love the recoil (I've had work done to mine though). It's interesting to read the history on the rounds. My caliber I'm playing with right now though is the 7mm Rem Mag. Talk about a flat round and some pop. SHABAM!!


Is the 7mmm Rem Mag. superior than the .30-06?


Yep.


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: dee] #4059313 02/17/13 01:25 AM
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Somebody pass the salt..... popcorn


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: Hunt n Fish] #4059335 02/17/13 01:36 AM
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Aw geez...


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: 00possum] #4059358 02/17/13 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: 00possum
"it just is"
What if I said the 308 is better because
"it just is"
308 can do the same thing all day long brother

Not even close. Load a 30-06 to 65k psi and it blows 308 into the dust.


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: centurion2000] #4059428 02/17/13 02:17 AM
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Let's have a 308 vs 30-06 challenge. 6" disk at 300 yds. 10 shots. For every hit you get a zero. For a miss you get a +5 seconds.

Start the shot timer. On the beep shoot 10 shots. Add raw time to number of miss x 5.

At the end of the challenge, I think you will get it.

Hmmmm seems like I may have some advantage with a 20 round magazine. Not sure how ya 30-06 guys gonna work that out LOL


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Oh prone will be fine. If you have a bipod use it. Stock butt bag will be fine also.

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: rustytxrx] #4059494 02/17/13 02:43 AM
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If only 300 I'd take a 223 over those two and win.


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: rustytxrx] #4059501 02/17/13 02:45 AM
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15 more pages here we come. 7mm vs 308 begin


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: dee] #4059506 02/17/13 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: dee
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Originally Posted By: ItusTactical
This is fascinating to me. I'm an '06 guy and have always shot a 30-06. I love the caliber and love the recoil (I've had work done to mine though). It's interesting to read the history on the rounds. My caliber I'm playing with right now though is the 7mm Rem Mag. Talk about a flat round and some pop. SHABAM!!


Is the 7mmm Rem Mag. superior than the .30-06?


Yep.


Bring your .30-06 out to match up against my 7 Rem Mag and I'll run you for pinks.

The 7 Rem Mag does not belong in this argument. It just isn't fair to the other two.


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: dee] #4059508 02/17/13 02:49 AM
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If only 300 I'd take a 223 over those two and win.


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: rustytxrx] #4059568 02/17/13 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: rustytxrx
Let's have a 308 vs 30-06 challenge

Start the shot timer. On the beep shoot 10 shots. Add raw time to number of miss x 5.

At the end of the challenge, I think you will get it



Who needs to shoot at anything 10 times!

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you do to win the challenge smile We are looking at a place the 308 leaves the 30-06 in the dirt. Exactly why the 308 was designed.

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Originally Posted By: rustytxrx
Let's have a 308 vs 30-06 challenge. 6" disk at 300 yds. 10 shots. For every hit you get a zero. For a miss you get a +5 seconds.
Start the shot timer. On the beep shoot 10 shots. Add raw time to number of miss x 5.
At the end of the challenge, I think you will get it.
Hmmmm seems like I may have some advantage with a 20 round magazine. Not sure how ya 30-06 guys gonna work that out LOL


Don't be so sure of that .... some of us have it worked out ...
and it's a nice 8 pound rifle.

Tell you what though ... let's make the challenge more interesting. All shots must penetrate the steel target.


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Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: rustytxrx] #4060347 02/17/13 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: rustytxrx
you do to win the challenge smile We are looking at a place the 308 leaves the 30-06 in the dirt. Exactly why the 308 was designed.


You would be disapointed shooting against some of CMP John C Garand competitors. 2moa is not that impressive.


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308 for me! when I can find ammo.....

Re: .308 vs 30-06 [Re: AlaskaCub] #4060711 02/17/13 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: AlaskaCub
Well lets see....from fastest and flattest to slowest and rainbow ish

300RUM
300Roy
300 WM
300WSM
300SAUM
30-06
308

Seems pretty silly to argue back and forth about which one of the two slowest 30 cals offered in bolt action rifles is better!


You left out the 30-378 & the 308 Warbird bang

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