Blackhawk Serpa.

Not too many people know exactly how to use them. Plus they also have a resistant retention.

With your rational.....whats to keep ANYONE from grabbing a LEO's gun?

It happens I know,...but not much differance.

Shane

Oh, Wait.....not saying people dont need training and it doesnt help.

BUT, I can see you have an Agenda.

Carry on.




Shane

I like the OC law just because I won't have to worry TOO much about printing and gives more holster options. Do not have CC now, going to class next week. But it seems to give me more options for carrying without breaking law. Especially in the summer when it will be harder to completely conceal in summer clothes.

If you mean by "agenda" that our goal is to convert as many Unconscious Incompetent people walking around not knowing what they don't know into Conscious Competent gun owners then ABSOLUTELY.

I'm sure you're a complete expert though...

I wouldn't mind having the option, but I would prefer to cc, I'd rather people not know when I am carrying.

Blackhawk Serpa.


With your rational.....whats to keep ANYONE from grabbing a LEO's gun?

Shane

What a P.O.S. choice for a holster.....

Oh, and We've been trained to retain our weapon. We're also always aware of our gun side and protecting it....

I'll continue to CC off duty, because its the intelligent thing to do.

Resistant retention only means there's pressure holding the gun in place. I was a LEO for 4 years and everybody I knew carried either a level 2 or level 3 weapon retention holster. That means there are two or three things holding the gun in place. With even the most basic level 2 holster you couldn't walk up and jerk it out unless you knew to rock the pistol back then straight up. And since you had it secured on a massive belt, if somebody came up and a really tried to take all you had to do was drop your right elbow over it and it prob wasn't coming out.

My point is that is states allow open carry they need to either require some type of security holster or require weapon retention training.

In this pic below, how could this woman possible retain her weapon if somebody tried to take it? There's nothing holding it in place except for the strength of the holster. This is exactly the problem. She can't see the gun, isn't aware of her surroundings and its essentially an unsecured weapon.

What a P.O.S. choice for a holster.....

Oh, and We've been trained to retain our weapon. We're also always aware of our gun side and protecting it....

I'll continue to CC off duty, because its the intelligent thing to do.

I dont really give a crap what garbage the USMC got for the lowest bid, nor do I care what some "sheepdog" has to say.

Get a quality kydex holster such as a Raven Concealment, or a quality hybrid such as a Crossbreed. Carry concealed and you dont have to worry about retention levels.

First off, the release button on a serpa is tiny. Have you ever had to draw your weapon in a high stress situation? That little button is going to be fun to find. Fine motor skills go out the window, you need something that requires gross motor skills. Secondly, the release button is activated by your TRIGGER FINGER. It would be very easy in a rushed situation to continue your release press and make contact with your weapon's trigger (just ask that fat moron tex whatever that blasted himself in the leg with his 1911 while drawing from a serpa). Thridly, what happens when that little button doesnt work???? Bend over?

If i were to carry a level three holster I would probably go with a Safariland with a THUMB activated retention hood. Its much easier and quicker to operate than the serpa "push button"

But since I would never open carry unless on duty, I'll continue to use my previously mentioned options.

By the way, people go for LEO's weapons more than you probably realize. Many LEO's are killed with their own weapons. The number would probably much higher for the avg. joe that doesnt have weapon retention training, or a mindset to protect their weapon side.

Bottom line is, the serpa is junk. Use at your own risk. I know I would not put my life on one.

The scared and paranoid?