Oh Really? lol. I guess all the wrecks on freeways are on purpose. I"m also sure that every single passanger airliner that has gone down was somehow planned too. Come on guy...Sometimes sht happens.


And to the OP: Like everybody is saying, pay the tickets and be on your way.

I wouldn't have been, it was petty and unwarranted.

He got four of you? Outlaw convention in town?

Like my Dad has told me over the past few years.....this is what is wrong with our youth these days....no respect for anything or anyone.

I've taken this class with 7 different children. None of which were lacking common sense. They were just never exposed to hunting or guns. They did learn a lot from the class and I don't mind them hunting with me because they are still learning. It's the older guys who are so full of common sense that know it all and never took the class that worry me. You know the ones I'm talking about. The 25 year old that just got a new knife and cuts himself, or the 50 year old that just got a new gun and waits til he's drunk to show it off . Then there's my favorite, the guy who drive all the way home and then starts to unload his vehicle grabs his rifle and shoots a hole in the driveway because he forgot to unlod his gun. Sometimes the course doesn't help when you have that much common sense.

I didn't say wrecks and crashes are planned. If you look at what caused the wreck or crash most likely you can find it could have been avoided. You got me on the airliner because some company built faulty equipment and you never know when that will fail. Human error is all I can say. I have broke bones and scars and all could have been avoided if I would have done some things differently.

Well maybe I'll feel different about the class than I do now. I will be going with my son when he takes it. But my feelings will never change. If you need a class to tell you its not safe to point a gun at your buddies head when crossing a fence or you don't use your house as a backstop while sighting in a rifle, then your probably never gonna be a safe hunter.
And yes that was 2 questions on there.

I know. I just chuckled to myself because sometimes things happen. Congrats on getting those kids safty courses under their belts and out hunting

Agreed!....If you think ANY law enforcement officer is walking into a camp of people in a rural setting with an unloaded gun and a smile on their face your kidding your self.

I agree with you only because I had guidance as a child about gun safety but I'm glad its out there for those who want to enjoy but have no one to guide them but the class. For those who get absolutly nothing from the class it was still required to hunt legally in Texas and like everyone else who had to waste a saturday to hunt plan it in the off season. lol

Where have i heard this recently? [/quote]


Apples and oranges Stevarino, apples and oranges. Not even a close comparison when talking hunters education class and gun control. And if you compare me to that socialist dictator in training, I will drive to McKinney and kick you right in the balls. lol [/quote]

LOL.. have to stir the pot.. !

You guys trip me out... The game warden and myself were laughing at the pistol comment. The reason I'm bitching is because my log was filled out...

Whoever said the class is a waste of the weekend is correct. It needs to be much more extensive. There needs to be much harder written and oral exams, as long as shooting proficiency. If you fail, thank you, come again next year. Yes, I believe hunting is a right, but you still need to be proficient with your gun, and know the law upside down, backwards, and every other way before you go out.

I wouldn't worry too much about the run in with the GW, it's not like they're going to launch some huge federal investigation over game logs.

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Cant believe ya smarted off to him either. GW's have ALLOT of power. Your lucky he didn't take your gun, truck, and all other posessions for that one.

Several years ago on a lease South West of San Angelo the last thing I told everyone before we left out for the morning hunt was tag'em where they drop! One of our guest killed a buck (was suppose to be a doe) didn't tag it, killed a turkey didn't tag it. I came into camp a the first thing the GW said was, why didn't you tag your turkey. My response was WTH are you talking about I haven't even fired a gun yet. He turned and asked the guest, whose turkey is that? He got two nice tickets and has not been on a lease that I have been on since then. After the ticket the GW loosened up a bit and told us, I have been hunting this camp for 4 years, now I am glad I found it! Regular company after that!!

We can actually get out on the hwy with untagged deer to go back to camp to fill out harvest logs.

you have to admit the Hunter Education Class is a bit of a "Nanny State" move, Big brother assuming the role of the parent.... So who's to blame? I had to take it, and thought is it was quite basic compared to what my father and grandfather had already tought me.

I believe it does what it intends to do, but i believe its the result of lazy parents not doing their job.

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Even though I'm old enough to not have to take the hunter safety course, I did anyway so I could hunt out of state. I wasn't expecting to get a lot out of it because I've been hunting longer than most of the students in the class had been alive. I was wrong. I got a lot out of the class and found it very enjoyable. It really isn't an extra tax or an unreasonable burden. It is well worth the time and money spent.

Maybe we should all hunt with no license since its just another tax...

In the case for the kids I've been taking to the classes it's not so much "Lazy Parents" it's lack of opportunity. The parents themselves were inner city kids or weren't interested in hunting. Now their children are interested but the question is "How to begin" I'm helping out because I'd like to see them get a chance to experience the outdoors. This is basicly an example of "product of your enviroment". I am actually going to sit in the class with 2 more young hunters this month. The only reason I go is for moral support. It's not time wasted to me and it helps me learn just how much these kids are going to be willing to learn. Out of 7 only 1 didn't show continued interest in hunting after the class, but he is one helluva fisherman.

fair aguement, but if this class did not exist wouldn't you assume the role of teacher and review H.S. with each of these kids before taking them hunting.... teach them firearm saftey, tricks of the trade, and to obey game laws...ect

I'm not saying the class is a bad just stating a fact it's big brother at work.... other wise it wouldn't be manditory

My lawyer tells me to read everything before I sign the dotted line.

"Texas Hunting Accidents Drop to Record Low" hmmm something is up with that! Although you may have been lucky enough to be shooting at age 5, lots of people haven't and it seems if the number of accidents are at a record low, something is working..... or it could be the Darwin Pool is thinning out or the hunters who get tickets aren't hunting anymore?

You outlaw.......... I would only do this IF the GW hunted with me on my lease