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Bad neighbors or good ones? #4015808 02/01/13 11:12 PM
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I have a small "18 acre" place LF. I have not seen a Whitetail buck with hard horns since the middle of Dec. And I have shot only one Whitetail spike in the last 3 years. I probably have the only feeder that runs year around. This afternoon I went over there and sat in the Kubota. This was about 4 P.m. The feeder goes off at 4:30. I saw 9 Whitetail ond 5 Axis. 2 of the Axis were spikes. 14 deer on 18 acres, but none that most would call shooters. So since I did not shoot any and I assume the neighbors shot every buck they saw and did not shoot any does are they good ones or bad ones?

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I have a small "18 acre" place LF.


Forgive me but that is funny!


Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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All neighbors are bad

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You could alway teach your neighbors a lesson and high fence your place.


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You have 18 acres. You're lucky to be seeing deer.

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It's bandera...if your yard has a sprinkler system and it works then you've got deer.

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All neighbors are bad
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Re: Bad neighbors or good ones? [Re: don k] #4016031 02/02/13 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: don k
I have a small "18 acre" place LF. I have not seen a Whitetail buck with hard horns since the middle of Dec. And I have shot only one Whitetail spike in the last 3 years. I probably have the only feeder that runs year around. This afternoon I went over there and sat in the Kubota. This was about 4 P.m. The feeder goes off at 4:30. I saw 9 Whitetail ond 5 Axis. 2 of the Axis were spikes. 14 deer on 18 acres, but none that most would call shooters. So since I did not shoot any and I assume the neighbors shot every buck they saw and did not shoot any does are they good ones or bad ones?
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I have a small "18 acre" place LF.


Forgive me but that is funny!


18 acres in Bandera is equal to about 350 in West Texas, actually 18 acres here is worth quite a bit more than West Texas land.

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Pretty sure he meant the LF part.


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I have a small "18 acre" place LF.


Forgive me but that is funny!


18 acres in Bandera is equal to about 350 in West Texas, actually 18 acres here is worth quite a bit more than West Texas land.


Maybe to somebody else but not me, hell the RRC won't even let me drill a well on less than 40. I've got friends whose front yards are bigger than that, I'm laughting at the LF. I'm starting to think my back yard may fall under the HF definition.


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Are you spiking their water source?




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Cant say if they are good or bad. it was probably a choice they made to shoot every buck IF the assumption is right, but i say you are probably seeing that amount of deer because i would guess the neighbors have let there feeders run out this late in the year.


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Not unusual for buck activity to drop off and they disappear at this time of the year after the pressure of a hunting season. If you had some rain they might be chasing new green growth. I feed after dark and before daylight this time of the year with corn till it starts to green up in early March or so. The deer here are really hitting protein at night also.


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I really don't care what they do. It is their property. It just goes to show you that if you own a place that is LF you are not the only one who is managing the deer herd. Unless the LF is several 1000 acres the only thing you really have control of is probaly the center of it. Everything around the edge is is going to be fifty-fifty with your neighbor. I am probably just as bad as the neighbor because I only shoot spikes and 2 year old Axis. Many probably think I should wait for them to become trophys in their minds. And yes there are probably more deer in 10 acres here than there are in 500 acres in parts of Texas. And the deer are more conditioned to humans than in most places. Yesterday I parked the Kubota about 75 yds. from the feeder. There were a few deer milling around so I threw out some corn about 30 ft. from me to see what they would do. Before long I had 6 deer eating the corn. So for those that think it is more sporting to hunt LF than HF around here you may be proved wrong. The deer I have in the HF are for the most part wilder than these.

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Originally Posted By: don k
I really don't care what they do. It is their property. It just goes to show you that if you own a place that is LF you are not the only one who is managing the deer herd. Unless the LF is several 1000 acres the only thing you really have control of is probaly the center of it. Everything around the edge is is going to be fifty-fifty with your neighbor. I am probably just as bad as the neighbor because I only shoot spikes and 2 year old Axis. Many probably think I should wait for them to become trophys in their minds. And yes there are probably more deer in 10 acres here than there are in 500 acres in parts of Texas. And the deer are more conditioned to humans than in most places. Yesterday I parked the Kubota about 75 yds. from the feeder. There were a few deer milling around so I threw out some corn about 30 ft. from me to see what they would do. Before long I had 6 deer eating the corn. So for those that think it is more sporting to hunt LF than HF around here you may be proved wrong. The deer I have in the HF are for the most part wilder than these.
confused2 so u have hf with 18 acres of lf?

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Re: Bad neighbors or good ones? [Re: 1860.colt] #4017263 02/02/13 03:38 PM
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I really don't care what they do. It is their property. It just goes to show you that if you own a place that is LF you are not the only one who is managing the deer herd. Unless the LF is several 1000 acres the only thing you really have control of is probaly the center of it. Everything around the edge is is going to be fifty-fifty with your neighbor. I am probably just as bad as the neighbor because I only shoot spikes and 2 year old Axis. Many probably think I should wait for them to become trophys in their minds. And yes there are probably more deer in 10 acres here than there are in 500 acres in parts of Texas. And the deer are more conditioned to humans than in most places. Yesterday I parked the Kubota about 75 yds. from the feeder. There were a few deer milling around so I threw out some corn about 30 ft. from me to see what they would do. Before long I had 6 deer eating the corn. So for those that think it is more sporting to hunt LF than HF around here you may be proved wrong. The deer I have in the HF are for the most part wilder than these.
confused2 so u have hf with 18 acres of lf?
Yes the 18 acres is a place I bought a few years ago. It is about half a mile from the main place which is HF. At the time because of neighbors and now more so be cause of my Ibex.

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I really don't care what they do. It is their property. It just goes to show you that if you own a place that is LF you are not the only one who is managing the deer herd. Unless the LF is several 1000 acres the only thing you really have control of is probaly the center of it. Everything around the edge is is going to be fifty-fifty with your neighbor. I am probably just as bad as the neighbor because I only shoot spikes and 2 year old Axis. Many probably think I should wait for them to become trophys in their minds. And yes there are probably more deer in 10 acres here than there are in 500 acres in parts of Texas. And the deer are more conditioned to humans than in most places. Yesterday I parked the Kubota about 75 yds. from the feeder. There were a few deer milling around so I threw out some corn about 30 ft. from me to see what they would do. Before long I had 6 deer eating the corn. So for those that think it is more sporting to hunt LF than HF around here you may be proved wrong. The deer I have in the HF are for the most part wilder than these.
confused2 so u have hf with 18 acres of lf?
Yes the 18 acres is a place I bought a few years ago. It is about half a mile from the main place which is HF. At the time because of neighbors and now more so be cause of my Ibex.
on first post it was talking about the lf.. had lease few years back whin could afford one.. put corn out for deer, worked up the ground, put out some throw & grow.. parked truck, walking to my stand seen nice buck, put scope on only about 30 yrds inta woods, couldn't get clear shot, waited.. woods exploded doe ran out of woods jumped lf another doe followed, then the buck.. other side of lf was pasture, had no lease right's.. all i could do was admire.. fair chase, the deer used the lf.. this was before they started the 13' spread.. flag



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I would have shot the axis...ha

I hunt on 40acre that cuts right in the middle of two 2000 acre places....took a doe and a buck off of it this year...could have taken much more..feed year round...food plots...etc.. neighboors hunt a little but not much...mainly youth season... a boy shot a small buck i had on camera all year durring youth season and they took some doe durring doe days....glad they took some doe since we dont have a regular season and as for the buck i was happy for the boy... they house most of the deer i get to shoot anyway so i realy dnt care what they do haha

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I have no problem with my neighbors because they have common sense. Besides, it's their land to do what they want, they do stuff that irritates me and I do the same to them. It's not because we dislike each other, it's because we enjoy doing what happens to irritate the other. I suggest coming up with a management plan for your deer with your neighbor. Only kill what you both set guidelines for. Hunting buddies are always good to have, even if you don't hunt with them.

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Originally Posted By: don k
I have a small "18 acre" place LF. I have not seen a Whitetail buck with hard horns since the middle of Dec. And I have shot only one Whitetail spike in the last 3 years. I probably have the only feeder that runs year around. This afternoon I went over there and sat in the Kubota. This was about 4 P.m. The feeder goes off at 4:30. I saw 9 Whitetail ond 5 Axis. 2 of the Axis were spikes. 14 deer on 18 acres, but none that most would call shooters. So since I did not shoot any and I assume the neighbors shot every buck they saw and did not shoot any does are they good ones or bad ones?


I hunt near pipe creek, its the same thing. The folks out there arent concerned with management. . . they want antlers. Its a "shoot him first" attitude because everyone thinks everyone else is shooting everything. . . sadly, everyone is right.

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Have you ever thought about TALKING TO THEM?? You might be surprised what you find.
There is no law prohibiting you from meeting your neighbors for a friendly chat..
I am surprised that you find it necessary to ask HERE.
Unless their place is loaded with "No Trespassing " signs or they have a Rottweiler patrolling the yard, I would suggest a face to face. What can it hurt?
It will surely answer your question that cannot be answered on a forum..

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Have you ever thought about TALKING TO THEM?? You might be surprised what you find.
There is no law prohibiting you from meeting your neighbors for a friendly chat..
I am surprised that you find it necessary to ask HERE.
Unless their place is loaded with "No Trespassing " signs or they have a Rottweiler patrolling the yard, I would suggest a face to face. What can it hurt?
It will surely answer your question that cannot be answered on a forum..I was not asking anything. I was stating a fact of what goes on not only here but all over the state. You have a certain part of the hunting population that wants big bucks. You also have a part that doesn't care what size they shoot as long as it has antlers. Who is right? Everyone has an oppinion on it. The person that owns the property and dictates how it is to be hunted is right. It is his property. No I have not talked to the neighbor on how I think he should run his hunting. It is none of my business. I get along fine with the owners and there is no sence in stirring up the pot. The owners have have hunted it this way for the last 50 years I have been here. They shoot every buck they see and no does. As their does come in heat bucks from all around will come in to breed the does and they can shoot them. They were the main reason my Dad HF this place years ago before it was even popular to do so. About the only thing I shoot at the LF place is Axis. I only shoot young bucks so in reality I am no better than they are. Should they talk to me about managing Axis. They are like me and know it is none of their business.

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Sorry Don, you DID ask a question..i.e. "Bad Neighbors or Good Ones?".
The last time I checked, a question mark indicates a request for an answer..I gave you a reply, simple as that.
No one said anything about trying to change the neighbors attitude about managing his place except you.
IMO, you have already decided what the neigbors attitude is without finding it out, first hand.
For that, I am truly sorry.
Your obvious solution is HF.

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