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keeping my daughter warm
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01/02/13 02:57 PM
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Moe #2
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okay going out on Tuesday morning I think temperatures were 35 to 40 degrees.my daughter was wearing my 1600mag Cabelas waderswhich are about 4 sizes too bigshe had on thigh high 80 percent wool wader socks a very warm pair of thermals flannel jeans the same very warm thermal top a sweat shirt a Arctic shield jacket with hood a face mask and a pair of gloves the head mittens over the fingersthat could be pulled back when she wanted to shoot.all this and she still with cold. am I missing something that she could be wearing that would be better and still have enough room to move to shoot.are am I just going to have to not take her when it gets below 35 degrees.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Moe #2]
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01/02/13 03:04 PM
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Texan1554
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Get some feet and hand warmers and bring along a space heater.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Texan1554]
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01/02/13 03:23 PM
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Moe #2
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I put hand warmers in ea.boot and in ea.mitten part of glove. For me a little warmth goes a long ways. She said it only warmed the spot it touched. Do u think a generator and space heater would flare ducks
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Texan1554]
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01/02/13 03:34 PM
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agsellers04
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Kids get cold alot easier than adults. I remember how much the cold got to me when I was five and it doesn't bother me so much any more. Just takes time out there in the cold. Either you get used to it, or you don't and you stay home in your warm bed.
She'll be cold no matter how many clothes you put on her but if she starts having a good time killing birds she'll forget all about that cold...
Just make sure she stays dry. Once you get wet when it is cold out, it doesn't matter how used to the cold you are, you are likely to get hypothermia out there and that is no bueno. I've had mild hypothermia a few times and it is no fun. Two times I got it I was in the water. Once i fell in over my waders, and once I was in Oregon steelhead fishing in the rain. Uncontrollable shivering, slurred speech, and general confusion are a dead giveaway.
I'm stating the obvious I'm sure but I hope this helps.
Hope your daughter takes up the sport and good luck to you both.
Last edited by agsellers04; 01/02/13 03:35 PM.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Moe #2]
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01/02/13 03:35 PM
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Jeff Elder
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Have you ever met a woman that wasn't always turning up the heater or wrapping up in a blanket. Those birds are always cold
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
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01/02/13 04:26 PM
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Jeff speaks the truth. For my kids the cold is much mental as it is physical. Sitting still makes them cold because its all there is to think about. When they go skiing or skating they are never cold. Movement is part of it, but they also need something to do. I used to have my son help me hunt deer. If a gun went off in the woods, Id tell him to watch the woods from that side b/c maybe the guy was a poor shot and a deer would be coming. 30 minutes of intense concentration - not cold. String a few of those together and its a fun hunt. In terms of heat - Up north people used these heaters ALL the time. Even if one leg gets warm it helps. http://www.mrheater.com/ProductFamily.aspx?catid=41
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
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01/02/13 05:13 PM
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BMowatt
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Try two hand warmers on the kidneys, helps keep the blood warm
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
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01/02/13 08:16 PM
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Cast
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A couple of Jon E Warmers. Don't use the Jon E fuel, wont stay lit, use naptha from HD.
Cast I have a short attention spa
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
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01/02/13 10:22 PM
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Took my kids out today. 10 and 6. 30-degrees when we arrived. Both had on polypro base layers, then synthetic fleece pants, wool socks. Cabela's 3mm waders on both kiddos. On top, polypro base layer, two layers of thick synthetic fleece, and a windproof camo jacket over that. Then, synthetic fleece neck gator, and fleece hat, with the jacket hood over that. Ski gloves. Hot breakfast before we arrived and lots of hot chocolate in the blind. No issues whatsoever. Didn't even get out the hand warmers today.
When you mention these layers, are you talking cotton thermal underwear and sweats? That alone will make a big difference. Avoid the cotton. Also, having waders on that are way too big makes it more difficult to heat up the air in between the layers with body heat. Same idea with mummy shaped, form fitting sleeping bags. Not saying you have to buy new waders, just an observation.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Super90]
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01/02/13 10:41 PM
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Go to a ski store and buy some hot chilly's base layers. I used to freeze on goose hunts till I bought them.
Shopping with your husband is like hunting with the game warden. Experience is what you get, when you didn't get what you wanted.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: kindall]
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01/02/13 10:56 PM
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: kindall]
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01/02/13 11:02 PM
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i just took my 9 yr old daughter this last weekend!!1 she wore all the warm stuff but could not stay warm!!! even with LOTS of hot chocolate!!i agree movement is the key!!!
she decided to go sit in the truck and play with her ipod and turn the heater on!!
being "on" the ducks helps!! when we are sitting there waiting, makes it hard not to think about the cold!!
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: GreyDuck]
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01/02/13 11:03 PM
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
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01/02/13 11:08 PM
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There are few problems money can't solve. As Borane suggested... Try selecting one of these: Mr. Heater @ Cabelas
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Old_School]
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01/02/13 11:12 PM
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There are few problems money can't solve. As Borane suggested... Try selecting one of these: Mr. Heater @ Cabelas Agreed ! We turn on the Mr. Heater in the blind when temps drop into the teens.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Super90]
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01/03/13 01:11 AM
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Cotton is referred to as death cloth by folks that climb mountains. Once it get's wet it has no insulation value what so ever. I'd be willing to bet the flannel jeans and top were made out of cotton. Once she got to moving around and began to sweat they probably were wet and held the cold. For extream cold I have silk top and bottoms (wicks moisture away), polypropylene tob and bottom (medium weight), polar fleece pants and top. Then the usual waders, jacket, etc. The other thing about layering is they hold in the heat, but once you sit idle for a while, you begin to lose the heat. Now, a trick my Uncle swears by is to use a Zippo Hand Warmer and a poncho. He would put my little cousin and the hand warmer under the poncho lit. The poncho holds the heat in and let's you warm up.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: kindall]
#3910289
01/03/13 01:27 AM
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Moe #2
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I think the base layer was that poly pro stuff. That stuff is great. I tried to get her to walk but the mud on the shoreline was awefull. We were sitting on burlap behind a stick blind if I took a buddy heater I would be afraid we would just burn a hole in our waders. I bought a 2nd layout blind today. That might help. Has any one used the thermacell insect repellent as a heater. I noticed when deer hunting it puts out a bit of heat but not enough to burn. If I put two of those inside layout blind that would help more. As for keeping her busy shooting I haven't learned enough yet too put us on many birds. Witch means I encourage her to sky bust to keep her interest up. Thanks for all y'alls commits.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Moe #2]
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01/03/13 01:33 AM
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Thanks Hopedale that sounds good.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Moe #2]
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01/03/13 01:38 AM
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Didn't know the poncho trick with the Zippo.
Zippo handwarmer is great gear ! I've had one for a few years now and it's definitely in the blind bag after the split !
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Super90]
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01/03/13 03:10 AM
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You don't say how old she is so it's hard to size.
Get a set of "Hot Chili's" as a base layer. You can get these at a ski supply store.
Outer layer: go to Omaha Surplus and purchase an M51 uniform bottom and top. The M51 was the solution for the frozen chosen during the Korean War. It is thick wool.
Top this off with a coat and drop the neoprene waders unless needed to stay dry.
This is my "single digit" cold weather outfit. Works so well I have to start taking off layers when the temps go above freezing or risk over heating.
Thought for the day: Ducks were almost hunted to extinction long before camo was invented.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: Windrider]
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01/03/13 08:21 AM
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David Maas
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High content wool blend socks, fleece to wick moisture, no cotton, more fleece and the best for last 4.0 Under Armour base layers.
My daughter wears the 4.0, 90% wool blend socksfleece over that, fleece hoodie, Under Armour gloves and Mack's Big Jr. waders. She has plenty of the big heat packs when she needs one and even this past week at 18 degrees, she wasn't complaining until she got her hands wet
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
[Re: David Maas]
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01/03/13 04:31 PM
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If she doesn't need to move around much, you can go to the store and buy an inexpensive sleeping bag. you could even cut it out so she can walk a bit in it. Pull it up to the armpits, and when she stands to shoot, it'll drop down, but will add a lot of wind and cold protection. Just don't plan to use it for anything other than hunting, because it will get wet and dirty.
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Re: keeping my daughter warm
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01/03/13 04:58 PM
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I advocate taking kids duck hunting in Teal season
The worst thing you can do is to make them think it is miserable at an early age. Let them learn it after they get older.
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