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 .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 03:04 AM
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I've had the itch for a .257 Roy for a few years now. I have reloading gear (minus dies), so I feel ok about having ammo without going broke. Mainly I have questions regarding 26 vs 24 inch barrel, using 7mag brass, general performance, etc. I'm probably nuts but I've even toyed with selling my 6.8 to fund either a project or a used Sub MOA and scope or whatever Roy I might find.
Game would be just about anything except elk. I have a .300wm to take care of those. Let's hear the good AND the bad!
"Providence protects children and idiots. I know because I have tested it" -Mark Twain
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 03:11 AM
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Good post. I will be following this one.
I just went to Cabelas and had them order a Weatherby Vanguard S2 in 257 Weatherby Mag for me. It has the 24" barrel so I hope I dont hear too many negatives about the 24" barrel.
I will be looking for some reloading info if anybody wants to PM me what has worked for them. I still need to buy dies, brass, bullets, powder, primers etc.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 03:12 AM
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Hey, copy me on those pm's!
Gonna look up the S2 right now.
"Providence protects children and idiots. I know because I have tested it" -Mark Twain
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:08 AM
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Have a Vanguard pre SUB-MOA model that sure shoots what it likes into sub MOA groups without a problem. It also has a 24 inch barrel. Will start loading more for it this year. Good round and rifle.
Even though you say not for Elk, do not hesitate to use it on one or take it along as a backup rifle on elk hunts. With the 100gr Barnes TSX, 110gr Accubond or 115 gr partitions it has proven to be up to the task of taking elk cleanly. A good friend has the Remington 700 in it and no issues either. Some of those elk were his shots.
Reloading slow powder and work up a load for it. The last one I worked up was getting 3/4 inch groups with 115 gr partitions using H1000 powder. Good enough for what I use it for,
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:21 AM
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Well it would be awesome if I could use it for elk. I know people kill them with .243's all the time but I don't want to go that far and spend that much without having confidence that my caliber choice is plenty for the target. I've found a couple SS Rems on GB for decent prices-might be scratching the itch soon..
"Providence protects children and idiots. I know because I have tested it" -Mark Twain
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:47 AM
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Hello all, I guess this is the thread that has finally pulled me out of lurker status, lol!
I've got a Vanguard with .257 roy chamber in a 24" barrel (original Vanguard but new), I always thought it would be a great caliber. I found it on clearance and bought it. Its an absolute hotrod!!! (I think a one in a Mark V with a 26" barrel and the 9 lug bolt would most certainly have an advantage, though) Then, luckily, managed to find a set of slightly used set of dies.
Anyway, been reloading and so far (since august) found really good results using IMR 7828 and 110g accubonds so far.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:55 AM
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24 vs 26 is around 100fps difference, give or take a few.
Last edited by fowlplayr; 12/30/12 04:56 AM.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 09:57 AM
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Drops it to 25-06 26 inch velocities.
Still a great gun.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 12:09 PM
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I've had the itch for a .257 Roy for a few years now. I have reloading gear (minus dies), so I feel ok about having ammo without going broke. Mainly I have questions regarding 26 vs 24 inch barrel, using 7mag brass, general performance, etc. I'm probably nuts but I've even toyed with selling my 6.8 to fund either a project or a used Sub MOA and scope or whatever Roy I might find.
Game would be just about anything except elk. I have a .300wm to take care of those. Let's hear the good AND the bad! I'm a big fan of Weatherby calibers and 26 inch barrels, be all you can be.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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12/30/12 02:35 PM
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Drops it to 25-06 26 inch velocities.
You're talking muzzle velocity and not energy correct? The weatherby has about 500# more energy when comparing the same grain bullet. I'm asking because I've been kicking around the idea of getting one of the two and can't decide which way to go.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 02:46 PM
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24 vs 26 is around 100fps difference, give or take a few. And about 5,000 decibels lol
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12/30/12 02:48 PM
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I was getting 3156 Fps in my vangaurd using 7 mag brass and shooting 117 SGK. Excellent accuracy and dropped whitetails, hogs, mule deer, and cow elk. I also have 25-06 that shoots the 117 just as clean getting 2960fps. Hope this helps.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:08 PM
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Drops it to 25-06 26 inch velocities.
You're talking muzzle velocity and not energy correct? The weatherby has about 500# more energy when comparing the same grain bullet. I'm asking because I've been kicking around the idea of getting one of the two and can't decide which way to go. Where do you think the energy comes from? Without velocity there is no energy to speak of. Lower velocity - lower energy, increase velocity - increase energy. Take the same weight bullet and same barrel lengths 24 or 26 and the 257 Roy will best the 25-06 by 200 fps or more in each barrel length. Doesn't seem like much but that is about the same difference between 30-06 and 300 Win Mag. Arguments can be made either way for each cartridge. Both are good but if you want more velocity therefore energy get the Weatherby.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:18 PM
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I would def go with 26 "tube or build a 2506 AI since you reload then you have the best of both worlds IMO .
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12/30/12 04:29 PM
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Happy b-day Kmon1!
Thanks for the input guys, I have more to think about now than before but that's good! Definitely looking to the 26" barrel in whatever choice. I'll research the AI as well. I guess I could always check out the .25STW I ran across years ago too. They call that 'The Hot Tamale'. Not too good on barrels, lol!
I think I'll probably look for a Rem 700 stainless SPS and put it in a Ti magnum stock and do all the other good stuff to it. Luckily I have a ton of 7mag brass! But I could be getting ahead of myself..
"Providence protects children and idiots. I know because I have tested it" -Mark Twain
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 04:32 PM
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Personally I wouldn't buy a 257 Roy with a 24" tube but that's only because there is only one reason to buy the 257 Weatherby and that's to get the most out of the fastest quarter bore. If you gotta have a 257 Roy then the Vanguard s2 is about the most affordable way to get in the game. As to the comments about the 257 not being up to Elk, you might want to rethink that logic. I just got back from 10 days in Utah and had a long discussion with my father in law about his 25-06, he's killed his last 9 elk with his 25-06 and even his buddies that shoot much larger rifles all agreed how impressive his kills have been on the Elk he's killed with that 25-06. Lots to overthink. The best deal for the longest time was the Rem 700 SPS in 257 Roy with a 26 barrel, have no idea why Rem quit making it?
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 05:49 PM
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Personally I wouldn't buy a 257 Roy with a 24" tube but that's only because there is only one reason to buy the 257 Weatherby and that's to get the most out of the fastest quarter bore. If you gotta have a 257 Roy then the Vanguard s2 is about the most affordable way to get in the game. As to the comments about the 257 not being up to Elk, you might want to rethink that logic. I just got back from 10 days in Utah and had a long discussion with my father in law about his 25-06, he's killed his last 9 elk with his 25-06 and even his buddies that shoot much larger rifles all agreed how impressive his kills have been on the Elk he's killed with that 25-06. Lots to overthink. The best deal for the longest time was the Rem 700 SPS in 257 Roy with a 26 barrel, have no idea why Rem quit making it? what he said. No one buys a 257 wby to be slow. I like 100 gr loads in my savage (douglas 26 in heavy sporter barrel boyds laminate stock). 100 gr is a lot faster (3600fps) and flatter shooting over normal hunting ranges. It is also devestating on deer ( dont expect pass throughs at short ranges unless using very tough bullets).
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 06:44 PM
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Just for comparison on the above post - Chad loaded me up some 100 gr Partitions getting 3450fps out of a 24". So I guess depending on the load is about 150fps difference, but that is still smoking IMO. My Accumark w/ 26" (no longer have) was a PITA in a deer stand. Amazing at what an inconvenience 2 little inches can make. Just something else to factor in.
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12/30/12 07:21 PM
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That is a max load with a matchking. Fragments at close range. However it worked on a 350 lbs. Pig at 60 yards .
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12/30/12 08:09 PM
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I'd reccommend any of their weapons for accuracy, ect..but I don't buy any of my weapons w/short tubes..the longer bbl's point
better, and I get a little more velocity. Too many hunters/shooters have the it looks good in my hands syndrome and want something w/a thin short bbl that is easy to swing in a vehicle and walk with..Very few ever think about how many shots they've taken from their hind legs, and legally from a vehicle.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 08:35 PM
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Wouldn't buy either a 25-06 or 257wby in under 26"..... why buy an over bore if your not going to try to maximize it.
I run the 80gr ttsx in mine...3850 ft/s. 1.85" high at a hundred = dead on at 300 and 6" low at 400. I dont even know if id switch to 100gr tsx for elk. Watched an Oryx put a hole in the ground from its chin hitting so hard...complete passtru both shoulders
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/30/12 08:40 PM
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Happy b-day Kmon1!
Thanks for the input guys, I have more to think about now than before but that's good! Definitely looking to the 26" barrel in whatever choice. I'll research the AI as well. I guess I could always check out the .25STW I ran across years ago too. They call that 'The Hot Tamale'. Not too good on barrels, lol!
I think I'll probably look for a Rem 700 stainless SPS and put it in a Ti magnum stock and do all the other good stuff to it. Luckily I have a ton of 7mag brass! But I could be getting ahead of myself.. Sps stainless 257wby... best gun I have ever owned.... haven't found a OTC load that it will not shoot sub moa... 
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This rifle was originally built with a 26" Hart barrel then I sent it to KAMPFELD CUSTOMS and one of the things I had them do was cut it to 24" and recrown it along with spiral flute to help barrel cooling.
Now much lighter and MUCH easier to manuver in a blind with a 24" barrel than the original 26"
Chronographed it before and after the barrel cut = 40fps slower
Because 3560fps will kill them just as fast as 3600fps
THIS RIFLE IS FOR SALE!- and I would be willing to make a deal on the brass and dies I have along with the exact load data for this load.
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Re: .257 Weatherby shooters-input please..
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12/31/12 08:51 PM
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Just finished building one for Stickchunker on here. 24" Bull Barrel on a Mauser 98 Action, 2.5# Boyds Trigger, Thumbhole Stock, floated and bedded. Great shooting gun, sub-moa accuracy running a Barnes 100gr TTSX. I got a .656" group and I am sure it will do better, not real comfortable for me to shoot a right handed thumbhole, left handed.
If you reload, I would recommend them all day long.
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