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 NEED AR ADVICE!
#382143
07/07/08 09:51 PM
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Alright, I am looking into buying another AR-15 sometime between now and September! Right now I have a Colt with 20" barrel, and I am looking at buying a carbine model with a 16" barrel to go with it! The three brands I am looking at are the Colt, Armalite, and Bushmaster! My question is which one do yall consider the best, or are they all about the same? I am very happy with my Colt, but I am a real dumb azz when it comes to AR's so any help yall can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks! 
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: JCB]
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07/07/08 11:30 PM
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Why get another .223? Try one of the other fun uppers available!
7.62 x39
.300 Whisper
.458 Socom
.50 Beowulf
6.8 SPC
6.5 Grendel
I'd put Colt, Armalite, and Bushmaster all up in the top tier of quality for your run of the mill AR.
Build your own, you'll enjoy it more.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: psg1954]
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07/08/08 12:01 AM
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"C" Gun 
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: psg1954]
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07/08/08 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Why get another .223? Try one of the other fun uppers available!
7.62 x39
.300 Whisper
.458 Socom
.50 Beowulf
6.8 SPC
6.5 Grendel
I'd put Colt, Armalite, and Bushmaster all up in the top tier of quality for your run of the mill AR.
Build your own, you'll enjoy it more.
I have given the Beowulf some thought, but I think I want to keep it simple and stick with something I can afford to shoot a little bit! If I do stray away from the 223 then I will most likely go for the AR-10 308!
I aint even going to try to build my own!!! Heck I can hardly take the one I have apart as it is!
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: JCB]
#382147
07/08/08 12:29 AM
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/08/08 12:34 AM
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Theres a heck of a deal on a bushmaster for sale in the classifeds, 16 inch barrel.
Have you ever shot a rock river?
If not and you want to let me know.
I love mine (which I carry on duty}
The trigger is sweet.
God Bless Our Troops
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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#382149
07/08/08 12:35 AM
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Panther city has a .458 socom,6.8 spc,223,ect DPMS,Stag,Armalite,Rock River,Olympic Arms.Bushmaster.in Stock. 817-731-2065
"SAY WHEN"
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: 1000YRDSTARE]
#382150
07/08/08 12:40 AM
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7mag
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Theres a heck of a deal on a bushmaster for sale in the classifeds, 16 inch barrel.
Have you ever shot a rock river?
If not and you want to let me know.
I love mine (which I carry on duty}
The trigger is sweet.
God Bless Our Troops
Just my opion, and opion is all. Right now Rock River is making the best AR. Very smooth and reliable. I carry a M16(department issue) but do intend to go with a Rock, when funds become available.
"Laugh with many, but don't trust any"
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/08/08 12:48 AM
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1000YRDSTARE
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Quote:
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Theres a heck of a deal on a bushmaster for sale in the classifeds, 16 inch barrel.
Have you ever shot a rock river?
If not and you want to let me know.
I love mine (which I carry on duty}
The trigger is sweet.
God Bless Our Troops
Just my opion, and opion is all. Right now Rock River is making the best AR. Very smooth and reliable. I carry a M16(department issue) but do intend to go with a Rock, when funds become available.
Just My Opinon Also.
But Really if you want to meet me at a range in the dfw area let me know.
You will love the Rock River
God Bless Our Troops
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: 1000YRDSTARE]
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07/08/08 01:04 AM
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Theres a heck of a deal on a bushmaster for sale in the classifeds, 16 inch barrel.
Have you ever shot a rock river?
If not and you want to let me know.
I love mine (which I carry on duty}
The trigger is sweet.
God Bless Our Troops
I have never shot a Rock River. I have heard of them, but not much. But then again I am not really into the Black Rifle thing enough to know much about anything!
I appreciate your offer to let me shoot yours, but honestly I would not know a good one from a bad one as long as go bang when I pull the trigger! The only reason I did not include the RRA in my choices is because I considered the Colt, Armalite, and Bushmaster the top 3 that I have heard of and figured I could not go wrong with any of those!
If yall honestly think the RRA is better than the 3 I am looking at, then I will dang sure take a look at them! Firearms are something I never try to get out as cheap as I can, but I do try to get the most for my money without going overboard!
I saw the Bushmaster in the classifieds, but I aint in too big of hurry to buy one right now! I just started looking yesterday, and as long as I have it by mid-September then I will be fine!
Thanks yall!
Anyone else have something to add?
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: JCB]
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07/08/08 01:05 AM
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One other thing:
Why do yall feel the Rock River is better than the others?
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: 1000YRDSTARE]
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07/08/08 01:44 AM
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I just bought my first AR (Stag Model 2 from Ammo Depot)...Before purchasing the rifle, I read every article, review and what seemed to thousands of post from AR15.com and this forum. What I discovered by doing my research is that everyone has plenty of opinions on which company makes the best weapon. I'd do my research, find a gun that meets your needs, as well as your budget and then pull the trigger (no pun intended).
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: 1000YRDSTARE]
#382156
07/08/08 01:47 AM
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mrbigtexan
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olympic arms is also a good one. smith and wesson m/p is also very nice. have heard many good things about dpms also.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/08/08 04:07 AM
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Chevys, Fords, Dodges, stick with one of the main mfg's and you cant go wrong, Mine a S&W, M&P and i love it, never any problems, and no it dosn't ride in the trunk in a nice padded case, it rides muzzle down in the kubota rtv, or in the rack i built for the 1964 model international 826, that i rake and bale hay with, all while shooting the cheapo monarch $5.29 a box ammo from academy when i do spook up a yote or a bunch of hogs. JMO
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...give it to a homeless guy...he won't mind the stiffness
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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#382159
07/08/08 03:09 PM
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I shoot a Double Star upper and lower. I've put ~800 rounds through it without a single hiccup. Some of it was the crappiest ammo you can buy. My only caution is that when you wander into some of the other calibers (especially the .50), ammo prices may take some of the fun out of plinking.
Practice doesn’t make perfect.
Practice makes permanent.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/08/08 03:13 PM
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I have a DPMS, and have shot well over 5000 rounds(probably a lot more than that) through it, and have had no problems. I reload, so I can load 1000 rounds for under a 100 dollars.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/14/08 10:32 PM
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LlindeX
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Wow, 1,000 rnds for under $100.00!!! I just got myself a new CMMG AR-15 and was getting together the reloading dies, etc that I'm gonna need. Can you tell me what components you're using for the $100/1000 loads in your 223? I have been lookin at winchester FMJ bullets, remington brass, IMR 4064 powder, and Federal small rifle primers. Best I can calculate, It's gonna run me around $200/1000 to reload that combination.
Regards, & Good Shootin',
LlindeX
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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#382162
07/15/08 12:14 AM
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Price went up a little, but it should still be close to 100. I buy these bullets http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...&hasJS=true almost 80 bucks now for 1000, then 1000 primers is about 20 bucks. I by 8 lbs of powder at a time, usually from shotgun news, when ever I can find it on sale. I think I paid 60 bucks for each 8 lbs powder last time I ordered, I can load almost 2500 rounds with 8 lbs. So what ever the going rate for powder is you can fiqure that out. I still have about 24 lbs of powder, so I won't be buying any for a while. I bought about 4k rounds of once fired brass years ago, don't remember what I paid for them though.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/15/08 12:43 AM
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LlindeX
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Thanks, I checked out the link. That will save me some $$$. What powder are you using, and how much does it set you back when you buy it 8 lbs. at a time? At present, I'm looking at IMR 4064, and a 1 lb. can is $22.95 + tax at Sportsmans Whse. here in Colorado.
Regards, & Good Shootin',
LlindeX
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/15/08 01:03 AM
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It has been a while since I bought powder, I bought 5 8lb containers. I am using the BLC-2, and I like it alot. Don't use H4198, H335, I had lots of trouble with powders. Auto loading .223's won't cycle on lots of the powders listed for the .223. I used the IMR 4064 before, but can't remember if I had cycling problems or not. I know the BLC-2 works. It has something to do with the speed the powder burns. It won't allow the bolt to cycle far enough to load another round.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
[Re: helomech]
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07/15/08 02:21 AM
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LlindeX
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Hey, Thanks for the tip. I was planning on using the IMR 4064 'cause that is what I've been loading for some of my other rifles for years. That would mean having to store one less powder around the house & several of my reload manuals listed it for the 223. However, You are correct; I went back and looked at each of them. Not a single manual lists an AR as their test rifle. Every one of them was using a bolt action. Even though I've reloaded alot for several different centerfire rifles, I've yet to reload anything for my AR-15 & what you're saying makes sense. My Son gave me about 4,000 rnds of factory loaded ammo when I got the gun so this will be my first attempt at working something up for it. Do you know what manual or manuals list load data for the AR-15 with the BLC-2 powder?
Thanks again for the tip,
LlindeX
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/15/08 02:43 AM
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No, I am just using the .223 load data, and going for minimum powder for my plinking rounds. It makes the powder go further, and I don't notice any negative side effects.
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Re: NEED AR ADVICE!
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07/20/08 12:06 PM
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Rock River Arms x 2 for me...love em! 
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