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anyone try razor back ammo?? #3786673 11/26/12 02:45 AM
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Academy had em at 24.00 a box so I bought 2 anyone try em out yet?


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nope but seems like a marketing ploy...

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Probably just a typical HP with a boar on the box. They will say anything to market a product to a specific animal.

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If it is a cavitation round "protected hollow point", Those are devastating. I would be interested to check those out.

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Can't wait to try it on a hogs head


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Can't wait to try it on a hogs head


If the video is accurate, sounds like shooting in the head would be wasteful, effective, but wasteful, given the price of the ammo.


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If it gets rid of a hog I would care paying 3.00 a bullet..

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Originally Posted By: Jimbo302
If it is a cavitation round "protected hollow point", Those are devastating. I would be interested to check those out.


They are "protected" hollow points or "controlled expansion" hollow points, & they are solid gilded metal. I bought a few boxes at Academy the other day myself & looking forward to trying them out a few times in real life soon.

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I was doing a little reading. Here is the good stuff:

After phone calls to Winchester engineers and hunting pigs and deer with it, here’s what I found: Razorback XT isn’t just for pigs, but it works like magic on them. It’s a super-premium load that features a bullet designed to expand to a set diameter across all velocities, average 99 percent weight retention and penetrate like a DeWalt drill. It’s available in .308 Win. and .223 Rem., obviously for AR-style rifles. For wary pigs where killing as many as possible is the goal—even at night—an AR in .308 caliber, like my Rock River LAR, can’t be beaten. Once I decided on the AR for hunting pigs, the Razorback’s features began making sense. But first, the facts:

The 150-grain .308 bullet has a BC of .344. Winchester touts muzzle velocity of 2810 fps from a 24-inch barrel. It averaged 2606 from my 16-inch AR. (Figure 25 fps less per each inch less than 24.) The 64-grain, .223 bullet has a BC of .247 and leaves a 24-inch barrel at 3020 fps.

Its point is hollow and it’s beveled on top (flattened in four places), a design engineers say allows the bullet to fold back onto itself in a controlled fashion. I was concerned with its lack of cannelure around the shank—rings that are proven by Barnes TSX bullets and others to enhance accuracy by giving a place for the bullet’s shank metal to go when displaced by the rifling. Winchester says it accomplished the same thing by beveling and deepening its hollowpoint past the ogive. They say it allows the bullet to give a little to accommodate displacement. I found the bullet in general was accurate in the .223 (1 MOA) and in my .308 (1.6 MOA). Of course this has much to do with the rifle. (Note that a .308 AR has a heavy action spring; if you experience a jam check whether the bullet has been pushed down into the case.

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It’s a super-premium load that features a bullet designed to expand to a set diameter across all velocities, average 99 percent weight retention and penetrate like a DeWalt drill.


Sorry, but that sounds like pure hype. No ammo expands to a set velocity at all velocities and penetrates like a DeWalt drill...unless you mean just 4-6" (the length of penetration of most bits) or that the expansion is zero.

It may be fine ammo, but the claim is unrealistic.


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i use 68 grain HP from Blackhills or 75 grain HP from Hornady out of my Sig556 using a 16 in. barrel 1 in 7 twist....i get many one shot kills when i hit them in the head or neck...cripple them when i hit in the hips...follow up shots are quick and usually on target grin

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It’s a super-premium load that features a bullet designed to expand to a set diameter across all velocities, average 99 percent weight retention and penetrate like a DeWalt drill.


Sorry, but that sounds like pure hype. No ammo expands to a set velocity at all velocities and penetrates like a DeWalt drill...unless you mean just 4-6" (the length of penetration of most bits) or that the expansion is zero.
It may be fine ammo, but the claim is unrealistic.


Yeah, expansion will change at different velocities, I suppose he is saying it's designed to stay as uniform as possible. I just took the "drill" part as common colorful analogy and not an exact representation. Here is the link.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/gear-review-winchester-razorback-xt/

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I hunt with Winchester Ballistic Silvertips and an AR-10 and dont plan on switching. Its hard not to kill a hog with a properly placed .308 or .223. I have seen FMJ IMI 5.56 blow a huge holes in hogs. The low flash powder may be useful but I would like to see proof before I buy.

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I'm sure they will peform just like barnes or hornadys GMX bullets. I reload barnes so I havnt bought any of these. Post up some pics of how they perform.

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Will do going out this weekend .i hope


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I'm sure they will peform just like barnes or hornadys GMX bullets. I reload barnes so I havnt bought any of these. Post up some pics of how they perform.


I will, as soon as I get back from the middle east. bang

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Got a box of 55 g 22.250 did a job on a yote at 50 yards

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