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I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
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07/11/12 01:51 PM
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C.J.
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It's just not cutting it for the volume I do. Last night was the last straw, 4 hours forming 400rds of .300 blk brass, that's just too damn long. I have a Lyman power trimmer which I'll be selling off (if anyone is interested I'd part with it for $120) and upgrading to a faster process. I'm thinking about a Giraud trimmer. Anyone have any suggestions or seen any new products? I need a trimmer that can do very high volume, and I'm not interested in the Dillon trimmers - they are too noisy running the vacuum and I need it deburred as well. Are there any good options?
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: C.J.]
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07/11/12 01:57 PM
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I did this for a year or so. It works pretty good. If you are needing to bump up in volume, look into a Giraurd case trimmer. It is awesome. I trim, chamfer and debur a case in about 2.5 to 3 seconds each. It's the coolest reloading gadget I own! I knew this had come up recently. I am still doing it the slow way.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: C.J.]
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07/11/12 02:01 PM
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The RCBS power trimmer can be very labor-saving when used with 3-way cutters which eliminate the chamfering step. The system is at its best when you can get your hands on the RCBS Trim Gauges, but they no longer make them and they're not easy to come by.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: RiverRider]
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07/11/12 02:16 PM
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Well I use a LE wilson gauge so the gauge is no problem. What is the problem with RCBS 3 way cutters is they don't fit Lyman chucks, and I don't want to spend more money on the same old style trimmer. Putting cases into a chuck takes way too long when you're doing 5k at a time, so I'm trying to avoid that system all together. It works great for smaller volumes but not for large loads.
Last edited by C.J.; 07/11/12 02:18 PM.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: C.J.]
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07/11/12 02:29 PM
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Giruard is the way to go for trimming in high volume.
"A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: C.J.]
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07/11/12 02:39 PM
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If you're talking about the old T-bar & collet system the old RCBS trimmers had, I couldn't agree more---those can be downright painful to operate. The newer system is a lot more user-friendly. I don't think the RCBS system could match the Giraud for ease and speed, but the RCBS system can be a bit more versatile. If I was going to work with just two or three rifle cartridges and in high volume, I'd go with Giraud for sure. One advantage of the RCBS system is that the 3-way cutters are versatile, meaning that they do not need adjustment to go from .222 Rem to .220 Swift, for example.
By the way, the RCBS Trim Gauge is not a measuring device, it is an accessory that makes trim length adjustments on the trimmer unnecessary.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: RiverRider]
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07/11/12 02:57 PM
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so, let me ask you something. Is there no similar products to the Giraud trimmers? They look great and seem to work fine, but good lord they are expensive for what they are.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: Ryan F.]
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07/11/12 04:24 PM
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Of course I only use one drill and trim all cases first, then set up the chamferring process and then debur.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
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07/11/12 06:15 PM
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I have a Giraurd case trimmer, and it is by far the best reloading tool I have for trimming and deburring/chamfering. But, the Giraurd would not be a good tool for trimming 223 into blk out. There is A LOT of brass that has to be removed from 223 to blk out. If you wanted to take the time to trim it with a Giraurd, it would work, but you would wear out a cutter blade. I would look at a cutting die from RCBS or Dillion and cut off the excess 223 material to get it close to blk out size, then trim, chamfer and debur it in the Giraurd.
There is also a Gracey case trimmer, but it's just as expensive.
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Re: I have to upgrade my trimming/deburring process
[Re: ChadTRG42]
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07/12/12 04:37 AM
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Set the depth on your chop saw for a close but coarse cut, size it, then stick it in the Giraud.
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