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Re: Dove Hunting 2008 !!! [Re: TexasHeat] #327951 04/11/08 05:25 PM
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Would you go to work and not make anything?I did'nt think so....It is a buisness....I wish you would go get some land so we don't have to deal with your mouth all year again....

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Paying to dove hunt is for suckers!




How so? Keeping in mind that literally thousands of people that don't have a place to go unless they pay to hunt so what would you suggest for those if you care to back up the sucker statement!!! Well founded statement I might add!




Easy, suckers pay 100.00 + a day to shoot AT doves. Some would rather free lance and hunt, take what they can get. I am not paying to hunt doves. Did it one time in my whole life and swore never again. Would rather miss out then pay to hunt dove! Until folks wise up and stop paying crazy money to hunt, it's not going to get any better. Also many times an "outfitter" will find where the doves are. Offer farmer say 1000.00 for the right to hunt. He agrees and then the outfitter will turn around and sup lease it for day hunts at say 150.00 a day. So it's like double dipping and the ones that really suffer are the hunters. When I could have went to the same farmer and paid the 1000.00 and got 10 of my buds to pitch in. It's just all about the money now a days. I do not like it and I will not support it, simple as that! If a hunter does his leg work, he can network with friends and co workers and odds are someone has land to hunt. Doves are pretty much every where, some more than others but you can still kill a few just about anyplace.





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Cory, suck it! No one asked you a damn thing! I have a right to have an opinion. Your in it to make a buck, I AM NOT! Simple ain't it..........


Re: Dove Hunting 2008 !!! [Re: Marcstar] #327953 04/11/08 06:22 PM
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As I said in my post above on this issue...I think everyone has to pay in one shape or form and if you pay for a lease it doesnt make you a sucker...but I don't think the majority pay for dove hunting leases or day leases. I would think the majority have land they own that they can hunt on or know someone that will let them hunt on the land...now this "Free" hunt might actually be in exchange for something else so it's almost never totally free...but it might only cost you a case of beer or a few boxes of shells.



That's a good post. I have really only been hunting for 5 years now, I had a free private place to dove hunt in the beginning just north of Dallas I got lucky and stumbled on, that has been develope now, then I did public, that sucked, then I tried a season lease ($125 for the season), that sucked, then last year I did day leases for the first time, found many place west for $25 to $30 a day, and they were real good concidering dove hunting in west texas last season was not very good, but $25 to $30, that is a good price, not much more than a case of beer, and really a drop in the bucket when you consider the overall cost of hunting, shells, gas, accomidations, etc...


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$25 to 30 is not the same as 100.00 to 125.00. I would even pay if it was that low! I have also been known to kick the landowners a few bucks or steaks or whatever to hunt as a thank you! But when folks want 100.00 + to kill 15 birds, well that is a rip off! My .02!


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Do you pay to deer hunt?




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Re: Dove Hunting 2008 !!! [Re: TexasHeat] #327956 04/13/08 12:36 PM
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$25 to 30 is not the same as 100.00 to 125.00. I would even pay if it was that low! I have also been known to kick the landowners a few bucks or steaks or whatever to hunt as a thank you! But when folks want 100.00 + to kill 15 birds, well that is a rip off! My .02!




Well then a dove lease makes perfect sense for you !

That's why I no longer day hunt dove as $50-100 a day is toooooooo much

Let's say you dove hunt 12 days total in Sept & Oct !

You pay $200 for the season divided by 12 hunts thats $16.6 a day !

Not to mention a variety of 6-7 different sunflower fields to hunt

Makes sense to me


Re: Dove Hunting 2008 !!! [Re: udamdan] #327957 04/22/08 12:33 AM
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It's Never to early too lock in your field for dove season !


Re: Dove Hunting 2008 !!! [Re: udamdan] #327958 04/22/08 03:44 AM
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$25 to 30 is not the same as 100.00 to 125.00. I would even pay if it was that low! I have also been known to kick the landowners a few bucks or steaks or whatever to hunt as a thank you! But when folks want 100.00 + to kill 15 birds, well that is a rip off! My .02!






Well then a dove lease makes perfect sense for you !

That's why I no longer day hunt dove as $50-100 a day is toooooooo much

Let's say you dove hunt 12 days total in Sept & Oct !

You pay $200 for the season divided by 12 hunts thats $16.6 a day !

Not to mention a variety of 6-7 different sunflower fields to hunt

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True but who knows where the birds are going to be, this far out ?????



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Somewhere in those posts Heat made a good comment that I think gets overlooked by many. He mentioned something I talk about alot and that's networking. Making friends and getting to know people is how I find most of my hunting spots. When I get invited to a place I remember that and repay the favor sometimes with "gifts" like beer, shells, buying lunch, driving etc...and sometimes by inviting them on a hunt.

Buddy of mine has a prime dove spot I make sure he knows I appreciate him letting me hunt that spot by giving him some things as well as inviting him on some duck hunts later in the year.

But I spend a lot of time talking to people about hunting, where they go, etc. I serve on my local DU committee...I go to a lot of DU and Delta events. It takes effort and time to build relationships and I can see how for some it might just be easier to just pay and that's fine.



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Good Post..


Re: Dove Hunting 2008 !!! [Re: Marcstar] #327961 04/22/08 01:47 PM
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Yes, good post Marcstar. I think IMHO thats the way things should work. Only rebuttal to that is when there is partnerships involved in lands and ranches. Sometimes its next to impossible to have your friends out to hunt when you have your partners to think about.

Recently I hunted at one of the forum members place and we agreed (all partners) that we would exchange a hunt with him at a later date. Now thats okay but when it comes to individuals sometimes things aren't quite the same. I would love to be able to ask all the guys I grew up with to come and enjoy hunting and fishing but I have co-owners I'm obligated too. Does this make sense?




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Sure it makes sense cool hand..that's the position you are in. None of the places I hunt have such complications...otherwise I guess I wouldnt be there.



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Anyone who pays $100 for a day hunt probably has enough money they don't have to worry about it. I pay $200 for a season west of Graham and probably go around 25 times per year (less than $10 a day). The reason I pay is because the guy has about 20 fields around the area that he is constantly scouting and I can call at any time and he will let me know where the birds are. I also have several places I can hunt for free which I generally take the landowner with me and pay for the brew. I think we can all sit and argue about the topic of paying or not, but the main reason I do is that gives me more options.


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Paying no problem here. If I could find 7 leases I would lease them . One for each day of the the week. I might have a small problem but thats all right.


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Not sure what the problem is, hunting of any kind has become a business and a big one all across the U.S..

If a person does not want to pay, or has places they can go for free or maybe in trade for some beer or a couple of steaks or some fence work, more power to them.

As has been said however, some folks don't have those connections and don't have the time or means to make such connections.

They want to hunt, and if they are willing to pay the price being asked, so what.

Yes, it is going to make it harder and harder to find places to go for free or at a lower price, but that is why it is called a Free Enterprise System.

Just because we don't like it, doesn't mean we should belittle people that are willing to take advantage of the system on either side, and yes, I am a guide, but if I want to go hunt elk, I hire an outfitter, because I don't have the equipment or knowledge or time to do it myself.


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As I stated before, I pay for my lease. Its very productive, convienant enough that I can go everyday of the season after work and do well.

I don't have to scout, ask permission, and I'm hunting with a great group of guys..A win-win situation for me...and I'm not rich by any means



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I'll be hunting in Culberson county this year for sure. Other than that I just hunt where the wind takes me. I never pay to dove hunt. I am lucky enough to have lots of buddys with hunting spots and a few of my own.



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I hunt some free places also and I hunt places that I lease. Anything free is great but I don't have a problem paying to hunt. I just like to hunt something different each time I hunt and not burn the places out. My pup [Sally] says she prefers places that have shade and a tank to cool off in.


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As I stated before, I pay for my lease. Its very productive, convienant enough that I can go everyday of the season after work and do well.

I don't have to scout, ask permission, and I'm hunting with a great group of guys..A win-win situation for me...and I'm not rich by any means




Now that's a good deal TreeBass


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anybody dove/quail hunt on public land?



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Not me, good luck !


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