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Javalina vs. Hog #3194495 04/30/12 06:02 PM
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Was curious to see what happens in areas where the two species exist. I would guess that hogs out compete javalina. Any landowners out there have both of them on your property?




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I've got a lease out in pecos that has both, but havent been there long enough to give you much valuable information on how they compete. However, there are.plenty of both if that tells you anything.



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I worked in Webb co back in 1990 in oil patch and saw both back then. Some of the hogs were huge and very spooky,never saw one up close.I wondered if they could have been Russian crosses that had migrated up from the King ranch area.


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We would see them both all the time in laredo on the callahan. What i did see less of was big groups of hogs and just loan boars and small sounders of sows....but every javi we saw was in a group. I always watched the groups of javis run off a loan hog. Not even the big boar wanted to come around them...they are bad little rats


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We have them both. I have been hunting and never seen the two together. From what I have seen the deer will hang out with a solitary boar, but not a momma and pigglets or a group of hogs. And never seen deer and javi at the feeder together or a pic of it on trail cams. Javi are prety solitary in my experience.

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Originally Posted By: Navasotbred
We would see them both all the time in laredo on the callahan. What i did see less of was big groups of hogs and just loan boars and small sounders of sows....but every javi we saw was in a group. I always watched the groups of javis run off a loan hog. Not even the big boar wanted to come around them...they are bad little rats

That's what I want to know, who could take who. I know hogs can be nasty but I haven't had any experience with javalina. It would be nice to know that they can hold their own when the hogs roll in.




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We saw a definite decrease in the number of hogs on the game camera as the javi population increased on our place. Could have been just a freak deal though.


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We would see them both all the time in laredo on the callahan. What i did see less of was big groups of hogs and just loan boars and small sounders of sows....but every javi we saw was in a group. I always watched the groups of javis run off a loan hog. Not even the big boar wanted to come around them...they are bad little rats

That's what I want to know, who could take who. I know hogs can be nasty but I haven't had any experience with javalina. It would be nice to know that they can hold their own when the hogs roll in.


One mature javi against a mature boar hands down the boar. Now a full grown javi and a 85lb pig...that pig aint got a chance. I dont think anything is dumb enough to mess with a group of those little rats either...they make a crazy distress call and the whole herd comes to kick somethins tail


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Remember a Javalina is not a hog. It is a rodent. One on one the Javalina has no chance. The Javalinas do reproduce slightly faster.



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one on one, hog would take the javi and eat it for breakfast.


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Originally Posted By: 30378
Remember a Javalina is not a hog. It is a rodent. One on one the Javalina has no chance. The Javalinas do reproduce slightly faster.



A peccary (plural peccaries; also javelina and skunk pig; Portuguese javali and Spanish jabalí, sajino or pecarí) is a medium-sized mammal of the family Tayassuidae, or New World pigs.[1] Peccaries are members of the artiodactyl suborder Suina, as are the pig family (Suidae) and possibly the hippopotamus family




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I have seen the javi's almost disappear in La Salle county after the late 80's when the hogs took over. I was told you will have a lot of either but not a lot of both. I will say this that I took off about 95% of the hogs on a 5100 acre HF ranch in La Salle and the javi's had been a rare sighting until the third year and they came back in high numbers. They are in a different family than pigs.



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The real question is where can I arrow a pigrat without ape ding too much $$$ ?


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Hogs will run out and off javalinas from a ranch, we used to have thousands of them in my county, now with all of the hogs they have become rare, the biggest javalina weighed 55 pounds in the exotic game records of the world, they are all hair and no weight. Outfitters have learned they can sell javalina hunts to first time bow and hog hunters so they have been wiped out in lots of areas, they are almost blind so easy to pop with a arrow at close range, lots of deer hunters shoot them and let them lie due to them eating deer corn, they are becoming scarce in many areas, lots of people forget they are game animals and only 2 per year and i think its also against the to shoot them at night and with a silenced weapon although i see lots of reports of it hapening on some other hunting forums, the javalina gets no respect in texas for surelol


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Originally Posted By: JThoele
The real question is where can I arrow a pigrat without ape ding too much $$$ ?


the chapparal ranch good chances to get in on standby for a javi hunt, its loaded with them too.




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When I was a kid, my dad always had a large ranch to hunt on down in Duval County. We always had TONS of javelina, more than anyone wanted & never saw a wild hog there. Now I see TONS of hogs but rarely see any javelina. They are still around though, just not where I'm at. They get pushed around by the hogs just like the deer do.


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Originally Posted By: bp3
I wondered if they could have been Russian crosses that had migrated up from the King ranch area.


If you look up the TPWD study by Dale Rollins, they concluded that pretty much ALL feral hogs in TX have Russian in 'em and pretty much NONE are full Russian unless they've been brought in recently from Russia.


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