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Hornady VMAX #3079018 03/10/12 03:22 AM
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What's your opinion of them on varmints, 223, 55gr, handloads?


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Explosive.


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accurate and quick fragmenting bullets.



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excallent bullet, you can use other bullets but none are any better.
although i do have a minor love affair goin on with nosler ballistic tips..



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Vmax will absolutely ruin a prairie dog's day!



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Thanks for the comments. I'm having a problem with coyotes running off after the shot, very little on the blood trail, and not being recovered. I started loading this bullet because of the great feedback I've read.

Let's assume shot placement is correct. I think next I have to take a look at my load, maybe not getting proper expansion.

For the experts, I'm loading 18.0 gr of IMR 4198, running them out of a R700 SPS Tactical (20" bull barrel). Any thoughts?


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Yup, they blow up on contact.



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Coyotes are tough for there size, I've shot several with my .22-250 and v-maxes and they go down but still crawl off into the brush.

V-max is a great bullet though, very rapid expansion



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if you are getting runners with a 55 v-max at 223 velocities which are about ideal for that bullet YOU are doing something wrong. stick it anywhere in the shoulder area and you will fold em like a cheap suit .
through the lungs and they will run maybe 50 yards, a few inches further back than that and they will run 100 to 150 yards. and that experiace is not from just a few, but from a few hundred.


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Originally Posted By: Southtexas36
Thanks for the comments. I'm having a problem with coyotes running off after the shot, very little on the blood trail, and not being recovered. I started loading this bullet because of the great feedback I've read.

Let's assume shot placement is correct. I think next I have to take a look at my load, maybe not getting proper expansion.

For the experts, I'm loading 18.0 gr of IMR 4198, running them out of a R700 SPS Tactical (20" bull barrel). Any thoughts?


That is a pretty light load, you are giving up probally 300fps of velocity or a little more to a max load of IMR4198. With the slower velocity you are giving up some on expansion and energy. Think of it this way shooting a yote with your load at 100 yards is about the same as shooting one at 200 yards with a max load. Not an expert just my 2cents


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I use the 50-grainers in .222, .223, and .220 Swift. They're very accurate bullets. I think Ballistic Tips might be a hair more accurate, but no by much. I'd recommend V-Max to anyone wanting to reload a .22 centerfire.



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I shoot 55gr vmax in 223 with 23 grains of imr4198. It puts them down. I worked my way up to that load, wouldn't recommend starting there.


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didn't realize that it was that light of a loading so please excuse my previous opinion.
That is below the minimum load data in one book at least.
I would bet that if you bring it up to somewhere between 20 to 21 grains your going to notice a huge difference in that bullets effectiveness.
And you will still be below the max loading and somewhere around 3000 fps vs the approx 2500 your getting now.



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Thanks to everyone for the info


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If you like the 55gr., try the 75gr.
Devastating on coyotes and wind doesn't effect them nearly as much.


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Originally Posted By: Norm
SouthTexas36,

If you like the 55gr., try the 75gr.
Devastating on coyotes and wind doesn't effect them nearly as much.


Thanks for the info


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Went back to the Hornady manual, they have 20 grs as max load.


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I know at least one manual suggests a little heavier charge than that as max, there may be others as well...but, have you considered moving on to a powder that would give you better velocity, and presumably better bullet performance? I'd suggest Benchmark (my choice powder for .223), H335, TAC, BL-C2, W748, H322, or something along those lines. You're probably getting around 2700 fps (but could be quite a bit less depending on your rifle) with your load, while passing up a potential of around 3250 fps, maybe more. I think that bullet ought to be dropping any well-hit coyote in his tracks if the range is short even at lower velocities, but if they're out there a ways them maybe not. I think more velocity would make a real difference...especially if it's on the order of 500 fps more.



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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
I know at least one manual suggests a little heavier charge than that as max, there may be others as well...but, have you considered moving on to a powder that would give you better velocity, and presumably better bullet performance? I'd suggest Benchmark (my choice powder for .223), H335, TAC, BL-C2, W748, H322, or something along those lines. You're probably getting around 2700 fps (but could be quite a bit less depending on your rifle) with your load, while passing up a potential of around 3250 fps, maybe more. I think that bullet ought to be dropping any well-hit coyote in his tracks if the range is short even at lower velocities, but if they're out there a ways them maybe not. I think more velocity would make a real difference...especially if it's on the order of 500 fps more.


Thanks, I will try that since I have a surplus of bullets


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I love the hornady line but my new favorite ammo is black hills blue box 223. The 75gr match Hollow points are great. I hit a yote far back in his hind quarters and he only ran about 75-100 yards.



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I know we're discussing yotes but my brother in law dropped a100lbs pig at +-100yrds with 55gr moving about 3200fps. Needless to say he did scramble the pigs brains


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I'm going to try turning on a little more heat with what Riverrider says


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Did some load development work yesterday with the Hornady 55 V-Max on top of Ramshot X-Terminator. Details are on the picture.





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I used to load them w/Varget in my 22-250 to head shoot does with
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