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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Venado 7] #2995068 02/07/12 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Venado 7
[quote=redchevy][quote]Get yourself a 270 - load 140gr Accubonds for Deer, drop down to a 90gr when you hog hunt,you wont be chasin anything through the woods anymore thats for sure.




I would like to know how you came to this conclusion. First off I cannot even find someone that makes a 90 gr bullet for a 270. Second the 140 grain bullet is going to be moving only about 200 fps slower but hitting twice as hard. Where are you getting these 90gr bullets because they are not accubonds. I hope your still reading because if you dont reply then I am going to have to call BS


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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995080 02/07/12 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: nado2036
I have never claimed to know it all with either hunting and especially women. But when I was in college and playing ball I never claimed to be using a big gun but I had to get an inter-cooler because I didnt want to burn the barrel up.

Married with two kids It is more like a ballistic tip when it goes off.

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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995119 02/07/12 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: nado2036
[quote=Venado 7][quote=redchevy]
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Get yourself a 270 - load 140gr Accubonds for Deer, drop down to a 90gr when you hog hunt,you wont be chasin anything through the woods anymore thats for sure.




I would like to know how you came to this conclusion. First off I cannot even find someone that makes a 90 gr bullet for a 270. Second the 140 grain bullet is going to be moving only about 200 fps slower but hitting twice as hard. Where are you getting these 90gr bullets because they are not accubonds. I hope your still reading because if you dont reply then I am going to have to call BS



SLOW YOUR ROLL THERE BUDDY - The 140gr bullet is a Nosler Accubond,they dont make a 90gr Accubond, the 90gr bullet is a Sierra..dont feel bad,most people dont even know there is a 90gr 270...I have the upper hand ,been reloading for over 40 years..so - your welcome.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Venado 7] #2995125 02/07/12 10:41 PM
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ps..they are great on hogs...and Yotes and such...the 90's that is,puts em down at long range- Im just to damn old to be chasin critters anymore - I like em dead where they stand.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Venado 7] #2995170 02/07/12 11:02 PM
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I need to see your numbers because that doesnt compute that they are going to have more killing power.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995180 02/07/12 11:05 PM
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So you started hunting at 9 and reloading at 12. All by yourself ?



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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Bobby B] #2995199 02/07/12 11:13 PM
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They fastest you are getting those 90's going are what 3200 fps and the 140's are at 3000fps. I will look at my books when I get home but the 140's are going to be hitting with at least 500 lbs harder than the 90's and shooting about as flat


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995209 02/07/12 11:18 PM
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I got news for ya, Federal is loading 110's in the .270 that are running 3500fps-muzzle.

I'm running Hornady 140's at 3100fps-muzzle.



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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995215 02/07/12 11:20 PM
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Thats why I asked for numbers that is all I could find on the internet at this time. But the 110's are not hitting harder are they?


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Bobby B] #2995220 02/07/12 11:20 PM
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Just read through all 5 pages of this... Noticed some good fair answers and some that were based solely on personal preference and experience. And then other opinions that just made my head hurt - mostly referring to those giving poor, ignorant reloading advice based on something they just Googled. Not cool.
However, in reality there are many different factors and scenarios that will play out to make one caliber more preferential than others and I believe most of those factors have been mentioned or pointed out in other threads. Remember there is more than one way to skin a cat, and to each their own... To sum it all up - where the hell is the popcorn. popcorn


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Nightlight] #2995230 02/07/12 11:23 PM
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I guess I am a bad resource to be answering on this thread. I prefer a 300wm cause I have the balistics chart tattooed on the inside of my fore arm.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995235 02/07/12 11:25 PM
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I guess im just not getting what it is your trying to find out..

First you tell me there is no such thing as a 90gr 270 and now your wanting numbers ?? numbers on what ??

I said ,and I will repeat it, I hunt DEER with a 270 - handloaded 14O gr Accubond - I hunt hogs & critters with a 90 gr SIERRA bullet..nothing more nothing less, all DEAD,,and that all I need to know, I also said you can kill a hog with a 22..so - yeah ,you can pretty much kill one with a 243 -

Bobby B - yes I started hunting at 9 and yes I have been reloading with my Dad and Uncle for just as long, not that thats the subject of the thread ,


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995242 02/07/12 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
I got news for ya, Federal is loading 110's in the .270 that are running 3500fps-muzzle.

I'm running Hornady 140's at 3100fps-muzzle.


Also i went to Sierra's website and Nosler because that is the bullets he said he was running. That is besides the point that I was trying to make but you pick out one part and run with it


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995249 02/07/12 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
I got news for ya, Federal is loading 110's in the .270 that are running 3500fps-muzzle.

I'm running Hornady 140's at 3100fps-muzzle.


Give him a break ,he just now learned there is a 270 - 90gr bullet.Maybe you can undertsand him better than me,cuz I sure the hell aint following what he is trying to figure out,matter fact -Im outta here ..this is going no where .


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: Venado 7] #2995251 02/07/12 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Venado 7
I guess im just not getting what it is your trying to find out..

First you tell me there is no such thing as a 90gr 270 and now your wanting numbers ?? numbers on what ??

I said ,and I will repeat it, I hunt DEER with a 270 - handloaded 14O gr Accubond - I hunt hogs & critters with a 90 gr SIERRA bullet..nothing more nothing less, all DEAD,,and that all I need to know, I also said you can kill a hog with a 22..so - yeah ,you can pretty much kill one with a 243 -

Bobby B - yes I started hunting at 9 and yes I have been reloading with my Dad and Uncle for just as long, not that thats the subject of the thread ,

So you reload but you cant tell me any information on your loads? You cant give me fps or ft-lbs that there hitting at? I shoot several guns and I can give you at least a few numbers right off the top of my head. Basically what I am trying to say is that the 90's are not hitting as hard. Therefore they do not have the killing power of the 140's so your statement holds no water. Bye


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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995259 02/07/12 11:32 PM
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If a 65g .223 bullet will sufficiently kill a hog why wouldn't a 90g .270 do just as well? Lots of folks using 80-ish grain bullets in .243 and they're killing pigs consistently.

Again, I make the observation that pigs are not Sherman tanks.



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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995264 02/07/12 11:33 PM
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A 25gr HP over 4000 fps located right behind the ear is light out, fwiw


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995270 02/07/12 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: nado2036
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A .243 is plenty.


For what a piglet? I used winchesters ballistic calculator for some to go by. http://ballisticscalculator.winchester.com/


Stop. Just stop spewing nonsense.

I would guarantee you if you shoot a pig/hog/boar whatever you want to call it in the vitals with a .243 it will die. 100% no doubt. If you cant put the bullet/projectile where it needs to be thats your fault.

The .243 is perfectly fine for pig hunting. END OF STORY.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995281 02/07/12 11:38 PM
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That is not the point Pirate its that the 140' are going to hit with more force is the arguement. Read Venado's original statement it does not make sense in my mind. Thats why I asked for numbers but he cant give me any. I shoot an 85 gr bullet out of my .243 and it is moving around 3300 fps and hitting with around 1900 ft-lbs.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995295 02/07/12 11:42 PM
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It doesn't really matter how much force the bullet hits with above about 1000ft/lbs.

I don't know what a 90g is going to hit with compared to the 140g. Their respective speeds will factor into and distance, of course. I'd have to look up the numbers. But I'm quite certain that anything inside 300 yards is gonna be lights out for Porky.


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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995300 02/07/12 11:44 PM
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So it doesnt matter how hard a bullet hits its target your totally right


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Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: nado2036] #2995371 02/08/12 12:10 AM
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Here ya go. You'll notice that the 90g bullet has plenty of energy out to and beyond 400 yards. No, it's not as much as the 140g but because it's moving faster it comes pretty darn close. I doubt that Porky can tell you the difference.

Ballistics Table in Yards
sst 90 gr., .250 B.C. www.hornady.com
Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3500 3287 3084 2705 2356 2034 1740
Energy (ft.-lb.) 2448 2159 1900 1462 1109 827 605
Trajectory (200 yd. zero) -1.5 0.2 1.1 0.0 -5.8 -18.0 -38.6
Come Up in MOA -1.5 -0.4 -1.0 0.0 1.9 4.3 7.4
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Ballistics Table in Yards
sst 140 gr., .495 B.C. www.hornady.com
Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3090 2991 2894 2707 2527 2355 2189
Energy (ft.-lb.) 2968 2781 2604 2278 1985 1723 1489
Trajectory (200 yd. zero) -1.5 0.4 1.3 0.0 -6.0 -17.5 -35.3
Come Up in MOA -1.5 -0.7 -1.3 0.0 1.9 4.2 6.7



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I shoot pigs year round with my 243, love it. Lately been shooting them with high powered air rifles & the bullets "pellets" are only traveling at 800 to 900 ft per second. Total pass through on broadside shots up to 100 yrds on boars in the 250 lb class range. Kills them just as dead as anything else. The only issue with the big pellet gun is head shots, the bullets aren't traveling quite fast enough to expand & shatter bone in the scull like I'm used to. It will leave a clean 357 caliber hole through the skull though but you better hit brain. FPS doesn't really matter as much as a lot of folks think it does unless you are a head & neck shooter. The 223 & 17 HMR are also two of my favorite pig killers, don't need a super dooper fast rifle to drop a hog & don't need a cannon. I've been really surprised at what a 17 HMR can do & the ammo is cheap.


Re: Hog Hunting with a .243? [Re: LandPirate] #2995429 02/08/12 12:27 AM
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In engines there is no replacement for displacement, and with ballistics there is no replacement for ft. lbs.


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The .243 is perfectly fine for pig hunting. END OF STORY.


".243 fine for pigs" - Yea! somebody said it! cheerleader


"END OF STORY" - Nope....I want more info on this spit thing! bolt

Now as I understand it there is "fast" spit and "slow" spit........ stir

Man I logged off, went down to the shop to work on a blind for a while. Came back and this things gone nuts! It's gonna be a long spring/summer - only 275 days til rifle season opens!



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