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4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease #2958677 01/25/12 12:34 PM
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$2100 / Gun

OK sportsfans, we are losing some members due to economy issues and need to fill these spots for the coming year. Would like to give all spots to one group but willing to split if necessary.

Lease Details: 23 members total w/ guest priveledges, 3 bedroom nice camp house w/ full kitch, ele, H2O, bathroom, 2800 lb flake ice machine. 12 miles off paved road through 5 gates approx 20mi NW of dwn twn Uvalde, 1 trophy buck and 1 cull and 2 does per year, lots of hogs and turkeys, Full access during Deer & turkey season w/limited off season access, Rugged, rocky, mesas & canyons, cedar & mesquite infested terraine best suited for atv access, cows are the only managed livestock on property, some exotics, good group of members , large lie tellin fire pit, occasional squabbles over the definition of a cull buck as well as how to manage lease in general, $2100 / yr no splitting fees. My opinion from the last ten years of hunting this ranch is that we have up to 140 class Max deer. Property is remote(just the way I like it) but very comfortable with most every ammenity required to grab two big handfulls of the great outdoors during the morning and afternoon hunts, , cut, clean and cooler your game, enjoy stories of great chase around a 6’ firepit,eat a hot meal, hot shower and get a great nights sleep in a warm bed (earplugs not included). Trailers welcome as this is where I and most members lodge during our stays. Very few (six that I know of) members use the house for anything more than the full kitchen.


Our rut is usually at the end of Nov / the beginning of December.

What we are looking for in new members:
Real Hunters (NOT Killers) that will commit to helping us growing a better deer herd.
Adults who know how to pick up after their selves and will commit to completing camp projects / maintenance on their own initiative.
No Jekyl & Hyde Complex - people behave just fine in their home communities yet morph into Pancho Villa type egotists once they get a beer and a gun in their hands. Pmt of lease fees do not provide land ownership status.
People who know how to tell time and commit to follow 25 mph speed limit on 12 mi incoming road that neighbor spent 400K to improve - will not drive in to lease and upset neighboring ranch hunters during deer season morning and afternoon hunt times.
People who in general know what constitutes a cull buck.(incidently it is not a 2 y/o 8pt w/ a 16“ spread unless it is missing two of its legs and in the process of attacking your child).

Sorry to be so blunt as I know that there are some real decent folks out there. We need to fill these spots for the 2012/13 season w/good ethical hunters. I will be showing this lease in March & April. I must meet candidates in person at the lease to make sure this venture will be a good fit for all. Applicants are welcome to spend the night (dont worry we have a/c) and consume adult bevereges during your visit so we can get a better idea of how prone you are to the Hyde complex.

2009 – 2010 MASON RANCH
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Please be aware that our deer camp is nothing more than a lease that we must take care of in order retain the privilege of membership.

1. Indian Creek road has a speed limit of 25 MPH. Please DO NOT exceed this limit as Mr. Stone will stop speeders and has been advised to report all Mason Ranch hunt club violators to me.
2. DO NOT drive Indian Creek Rd during the hours of 1 hr pre sunrise – 10:00 AM OR 3:00PM – ½ hr past sunset during deer season.
3. Speed limit in camp yard is 10 MPH.
4. Be Gun / Rifle Safety Conscious at all time. Please unload all guns (with the exception of holstered pistols) prior to entering camp and always keep them pointed in a safe direction. Members or Guest who disregard this rule will be escorted off premises.
5. No discharging of firearms inside camp yard unless it is in an effort to prevent the depredation of our trash or property by predatory animals by use of prudent means of control.
6. Take responsibility for your own trash. Please remember that we do not have trash pick-up services at the lease and all garbage must be either burned in burn barrels (burnable trash only) or packed out. Maintain control of all trash while in camp to prevent dispersement by raccoons.
7. No deer corn or grain of any kind is to be stored at house, in yard, in your lease vehicles or in your camp trailers whether or not they are in vermin proof containers. All grain found within the perimeter of the camp house yard will be disposed of upon discovery. All extra grain should either be taken home or stored in your individual hunting areas.
8. Those who are staying in or using the camp house must take responsibility for keeping it clean. Members who fit into this category must ensure that bathroom & kitchen have been cleaned and all floors swept out and vacuumed prior to departing camp w/ NO EXCEPTIONS!
9. Anyone using the kitchen, bathroom or any other common areas of the bunk house are expected to provide the effort to maintain their order and cleanliness.
10. No food of any kind outside that which is canned or placed in refrigerators or freezers are to be left anywhere inside the perimeter of our camp yard. Please take responsibility for disposing of your perishable items from refrigerators in an appropriate and timely fashion that should NEVER exceed the middle of January when each years Whitetail season ends.
11. No trash of any kind is to be left in our fire pit. All trash type items that you place in fire pit that are not completely consumed by the fire must be removed prior to lease trip departure.
12. DO NOT bring deer feeders or blinds into camp that are not staging for immediate transition to either your home or designated hunting area. All blinds or deer feeder parts that are left in camp are subject to immediate disposal.
13. Please keep our yard as well as your individual trailer areas neat and free of trash or debris. Our camp yard needs to express more of an orderly and actively lived in appearance to help reduce the possibilities of break-ins and theft from outsiders.
14. Please empty out ashes from fireplace, grills, smoker and common room pot belly stove after use.
15. All hunting from September 1st - January 31st needs to take place in YOUR designated area ONLY AND should not include any form of hunting outside of Deer, Hogs, Turkey or Exotics. The hunting of any area outside that of your own will require the permission of those who have been designated the area you wish to hunt. Absolutely no road hunting will be permitted during this time period.
16. This years Whitetail harvest should include NOTHING other than one mature trophy buck, one cull buck & 2 does. All harvested deer should be at least 3 ½ + years old or severely crippled or severely disfigured or in the process of taking your life.
17. Any willful destruction of camp property or member property will be reported to the Uvalde Co. Sheriffs Dept.
18. No guest or family member will be permitted on premises without primary member unless they have received approval from me. Otherwise, all guests and / or family members must be accompanied by primary lease member at all times.
19. Your children are your responsibility. All children under the age of 15 must be supervised at all times.

Hope all of this info helps build you a good picture about our camp. Call me if you are interested

Kevin Kramer (936) 537-6759
Camp Mgmt / 10yr Lease Member




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Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: SALTSTORM] #2958735 01/25/12 01:23 PM
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Just wondering why people keep getting off of this place. You ran the same ad last year? It looks to be an amazing piece of property at a good price.


Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: danny871] #2958865 01/25/12 02:17 PM
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Very long drive for most who live in Houston area and work a 9-5 Mon - Fri work week. Personally speaking, I wouldn't want this lease either if I could not committ to min 3 day visits.

Let it be known that I do not want any of my members closer than 200 mi from the lease. This is our effort to cut down on various forms of lease abuse that we have seen from past members who live in SA and closer. Not that they represent undesirable people or anything other than ethical hunters as a whole, just playing the odds.

Any 23 member lease is going to have turnover for one reason or another. But even more importantly than the 4 I lost, I kept 18 and I would never leave unless forced to do so.

We have a camp Meeting coming up on the weekend of March 3rd. Why don't you come out and ask my members yourself.


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Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: danny871] #2958870 01/25/12 02:19 PM
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How many acres? Read the whole thing, dont think I missed it??



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Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: FETCH_UP] #2959311 01/25/12 04:19 PM
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What are the rules for any Exoctics seen..And limited access during summer does that mean we cant go at all..


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Originally Posted By: SALTSTORM

Let it be known that I do not want any of my members closer than 200 mi from the lease. This is our effort to cut down on various forms of lease abuse that we have seen from past members who live in SA and closer. Not that they represent undesirable people or anything other than ethical hunters as a whole, just playing the odds.


Sounds like a pretty good deal, but this quote interest me...I get the feeling that you don't want someone that can go more than the "average" hunter by that statement. Can people go whenever they want and stay as long as they want? The OP says the hunter will have full access. Does that mean that someone could stay for 2 weeks straight?

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How many acres? Read the whole thing, dont think I missed it??


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Is there a feed program in place since its sounds like most members live a good distance away. Is there a local feed store/ person ranch that comes and fills feeders and protein?

Are kids, age 11, welcome? If so I would image they hunt off members tag.

Where is the located? So that I can look at it on google maps.


Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: jneutrontx] #2959521 01/25/12 05:32 PM
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I am mainly interested in Axis is there alot there?


Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: elliscountyhog] #2959560 01/25/12 05:43 PM
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i'd be interested but i live like 35 miles away... rules


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Originally Posted By: tannerlst
i'd be interested but i live like 35 miles away... rules



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Originally Posted By: tannerlst
i'd be interested but i live like 35 miles away... rules



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Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: CRAnderson52] #2962931 01/26/12 06:16 PM
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These lease poposting get better and better every year. So this one you have to live aleast three hours away because you might hunt to much.....LOL?????


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New to this forum. Just sent PM.


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Yeah, I was very interested but fell victim to discrimination being a Sanantonian. I'm a Texans fan, does that help?


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Looks like I have generated a few questions...

1) This is a family lease so all immediate family members welcome however, must keep up with your own kids, wife, guests etc.

2) I don't care how long you spend at the lease (1 day or 4 wks at a time ok w/me) I just don't want anyone having an easier journey to lease than other members or mgmt. / or people like 7mag or danny871.

I could be dishonest and let people who live close to the lease waste time inquiring and looking at it only to deny their access once they have already made this investment but I don't think that is fair. I don't want to waste anyones time. Fact is that it is my responsibillity to my members to manage it in a way that is best and avoid past mistakes. Allowing those who live next door to the property opens the door for abuse and I don't want to gamble on that possibillity if I dont have to.

3) Full lease access Sept 1 - Feb & all of spring Turkey season, 1st wknd only all other months.

4) 6450 acs total

5) No limit or fees on exotics.

6) Most members feed year around, some protein feed however, feed programs are an issue that I put up for a member vote on a yearly basis and to this date we do not have a majority vote to implement one.




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Re: 4 Spots Available on Uvalde Deer Lease [Re: SALTSTORM] #2971078 01/30/12 01:23 AM
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I sent you a email and I can fill all 5 spots just let me know for Shure when you know everything for shure and I'll come see it and get you a check for all the spots thanks



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Shure? Do you work for a radio company, and youre thowing out the plug?



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thanks for the spelling lesson i was in a rush earlier but i have guys that have the money NOW, just waiting on my word when and where



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