My suppressed rifles shoot to a different point of impact without the can. I could keep up with the number of clicks to adjust with and without, but prefer not to. I really don't even like shooting those rifles without a can. If I could use a suppressed rifle for hunting game animals, I would.

Please enlighten us, I know of quite a few cases.

I really don't care either way. I have several cans and love them, however with some of my subsonic ammo they are stupid quiet and I could see how it would be a poachers dream. On the other hand I do like not wearing ear pro...

I guess we'll see what shakes out.

No problem here with hunting using silencers. Might actually consider adding one to my daughter's 7mm-08.

There were a few reasons I bought a can but the most important was to save my hearing. I never wear ear plugs when hunting and those 556's coming out pf a 16can inch barrel are loud and my ar is my go to rifle for driving driving around the lease filling feeders and what not.

Yes, I do have a website, facebook, and all of that fun stuff. Out of respect for the site and because I am not yet a forum sponsor, I won't put it out in the open. I support a lot of forums, but I choose to participate and be as helpful as possible before I just show up. Plus, I am not sure I want to tread on someone else's territory.



MILITARY SUPPRESSOR CONTRACT
The family of muzzle brake suppressors (FBMS) contract awarded SureFire a $23.3 million dollar deal. AAC was awarded several million, and there is still several million in the contract to be awarded. This happened this year.

I also have permanent hearing damage from firing a SAW in combat w/o hearing protection. It isn’t always advantageous to have hearing pro in.

Just my thought this morning but should we really even consider what poachers will or will not do in this instance?
They are breaking the law already, doesn't make sense that one more is going to stop them from using it.
Especially if they already have one for shooting hogs.
Also I would imagine that there is more game poached with a 22 LR than any other caliber anyhow.
Semms like a non issue to me, but if I am wrong please enlighten me.

If you want to own a silencer now you can! You can basically hunt anything but deer with it. Anyone that thinks this will increase poaching explain how. What would be different? I"m confused I own a silencer now, I can carry it with me in my truck now, why would I or anyone else be more apt to poach? Most people won't go through the trouble and paper work to own one. But let those of us that will or have hunt deer with them.
I hunt in England with them and they are great very little noise and recoil. Most people even shoot better with them. And for those of you that think animals will not be spooked by them think again. If you want to poach with out a silencer just get subsonic 223 ammo and have at it or by a $100 22 and shoot shorts. Sorry for my rant but I am annoyed by ignorant opinions.

wchamilton I totally agree.

Howdy. New to this forum. I was researching the proposed TXPWD regulation change on suppressors and came across this thread. From what I understand, TXPWD had done some extensive research on this subject and can find no cases of poaching with suppressors in other states that already allow their use. In the majority of the cases studied a cross bow has been the weapon of choice. Think about it- why would any reasonable person risk not only losing their investments but also a felony conviction that would stop them from ever legally owning a gun again. If someone is stupid enough to poach with a suppressed firearm the they deserve what consequences they get handed to them.

I would love to use my legally owned suppressor to hunt game. Many places I have access to are in close proximity to houses, etc. and shots early in the morning on a weekend tend to piss some folks off.

This isn't going to increase poaching, you think they are going to spend the extra money on some silencer, heck NO, they we spend cash on a new used camero with T-tops first.

Here is the major problem with this argument, I can tell you from experience that a suppressed .223 is still audible from over a mile away. There is nothing you can do about the sonic crack, which carries just as far as the report, except slow the bullet down at the expense of lethality.

Especially when they can pick up a cross bow for under $200.

Everyone seems focused on deer hunting, I look more forward to being able to keep the suppressor on my .22 for squirells since they are a game animal in TX. Now I could pick squirells off with subsonic .22 without making a ton of noise in an area I also want to hunt deer.

Also an interest of mine including corn stealing racoons, etc. on a feeder I'm hunting.

and corn sucking piglets
CZ 455 16" barrel w suppressor
Remy .22 subs

Bother were shoulder shots one was DRT the other ran 10yrds
shot them both in the dark before the sun was up and the deer came out. Although the deer didn't like the fact there were two dead pigs in the road.

By the way this was in Sept while I was scouting......

For everyone thinks that silencers will increase poaching, how about we just take everyone's guns away? Can you imagine the effect on poaching that will have? I mean, a silencer is not a firearm, it doesn't shoot a projectile, it reduces the sound pressure to a rate that is not damaging to your hearing.

As previously stated, silencers are already legal. Just because hunting game animals will be legal does not mean that the poaching crowd will head to the local silencer store. The argument is moot. My argument is, why doesn't everyone have to own one. If guns were invented today, it would be required.

For those of you that don't own a silencer, you are rude and inconsiderate to others!!!

SWEET!!! Nice shooting!

my sentiments exactly.

I have three and wish I never had to remove them, I'd love one on my 300wsm for hunting,

Guys, even the dang Euros are using them for hunting...... we can't be uncivilized savages.....

Hear! Hear! (insert bad pun here)

Here's a critter I put down a few weeks ago while driving around the ranch... and I didn't even wake the neighbors.

The people of England filed a class action law suit against thegovernment over damage to their hearing. Now they are allowed moderators"silencers".

Seems to be a lot of experience about poachers on here.

I've never poached and I would turn anybody in I caught doing it. I would have no idea what they do and wouldn't do. I think it's a weak argument unless you have real experience in it. Hopefully nobody here does.


With that said, I'd love to have a supressor. I see nothing wrong with it. Reducing recoil, getting rid of the loud boom that scare off herds that seem to disappear at the end of the season, and allowing the hunter to make a more controlled shot sound like a good idea to me.

Better shots mean less wounded game. Allows for second and third shots on feral hogs as well.

I say bring it and get the cost of them down as more people use them.

Experience[quote=Fatalwishes]Seems to be a lot of experience about poachers on here.

I've never poached and I would turn anybody in I caught doing it. I would have no idea what they do and wouldn't do. I think it's a weak argument unless you have real experience in it. Hopefully nobody here does.

Experience or common sense!

Can you show me the documentation and the adjudication of any poaching cases involving suppressors ?

Check the TPWD trailer. It was on display at DSC last weekend and appears all over the state. It has some info and a couple of confiscated rifles with silencers.

It is probably correct to say poachers won't go through the paperwork or expense to obtain a supressor. They build their own.

I know I am tired of being an A-hole to my neighbors, could you send me a suppressor for my 6.8 bushmaster ASAP please

I agree with the whoever posted above that poaching is a non issue on this one, poachers are already operating outside of the law so this does not apply to them

funny many of yall are against suppressors, but okay with shooting a deer over bait aka feeders. this debate is no different than bitchyhunters (bow hunters) vs crossbow. bowhunters argue its too easy...bitch please, you sit in a completely blacked out blind over bait(feeder). those who hunt treestand, its 'common' TV show knowledge deer don't look up.