After careful consideration of most, if not all points of view,I can actually see it from Both sides? There are always many sides. All I'm saying is everybody must pull their weight.

I'm just going to have to let this one go.

Our private bioligist does 95% of the work.The TPW either approves or dissaproves the plan then hits the print button for the permits.Not alot of cost in the system.

Kind of what I was thinking, but there is the possibility that I am wrong. I e-mail my data to the TPWD biologist. He either calls or e-mails me the following day and the permits are received a few days later.

So the permits appear out of thin air. Interesting. Endless supply of them so I agree no costs involved.

I know of a mule deer ranch on MLD and the rancher let the people leasing the ranch do the survey after being told how to take it by the state's game biologist. Rancher presented the info to the biologist and they agreed on a harvest number and that was it. Of course the state had to mail him the permits, but
doesn't sound real complicated to me. I am sure there is more to it, but looks like to me if you can read, you can do it. Of course, I have been wrong before and plan on being wrong again. I have been out there hunting and they never really seem to have a plan set in stone. I just wait until I am told I can shoot and never shoot until I am told to.

Since MLD seems to be a financial burden on TPWD, they could eliminate it, MLD ranches can turn out the "extra deer", and the TPWD Biologists could get a job in the private sector for more money.

WIN, WIN, WIN

You might just be surprised how many LF ranches are in the program also.

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No, I know....They LF-MLD just want to jump on the bandwagon and get longer seasons, liberal limits, etc. They can feel like they are deer managers too.

Not worried about the LF cuz the deer can leave if the habitat isn't supporting them. Mother Nature is funny that way.

The MLD was ORIGINALLY for HF !!!

But it works on a sizeable low fence place just the same...and if you keep them fed on a low fence place they arnt goin anywere... is it perfect nope...but its whats avalible if you want to seriously manage a place with high numbers of deer... if you dnt want to do it then dont... its not manditory

Mld is the best thing to ever happen to LF hill country properties.

Even if it just level 1 & 2

Mld is great due to the awareness it puts on you herd and CC.

Mld with just the theory of its practice is what has allowed your typical LF hill country's counties such as mason, llano, Gillispie counties get their numbers under control for mature bucks to reach a high level of their potential...why we are seeing hill country breaking 150-170

Not only the bucks but a healthier herd that with stands the evils of mother nature better

MLD is managed land permit not managed fence permit.Theres nothing majical about it.You work hard and give good data make a good plan and reap the rewards.Anybody can apply for it.You just need atleast 800 contiguous acres.You donot have to own all of it by your self but can join forces with other small landowners to achieve the acrerage.It just takes some envolvement.

MLD is a lot of work.....like the old saying..."If it WAS that easy, everyone would be doing it!!"
And by the way, it DOES work on LOW FENCE RANCHES!!!!
We are on 1,650 acres (owned by the same person) and it works great....just my 2 cents.

How else do you propose I control the population on a low fenced ranch without jumping on the "bandwagon" while pretending to be a deer manager?

You know this comment isn't accurate.

Do not know why anyone would not want to use MLD if they qualify.You get to set it up the way you want and itgives you alot of fredom you usually dont have.

All of the data that I send in is electronic no paper.The only paper is the printed permit.Like I said earlier my biologist does most of the work on the plan.

I've hunted LF MLD for the past few years with great success. We were able to get the population under CC and managed a 1.5:1 doe-to-buck ratio.