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Hunting accident
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12/28/11 12:57 AM
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Rob3tx
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A 34 year-old man hunting hogs with family members in Hill county has died after being shot in an apparent hunting accident.The man was hunting with five others off Hill county road 4205 Monday evening about ten miles northwest Hillsboro . My Heart goes out to the familys envolved.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Rob3tx]
#2874539
12/28/11 01:01 AM
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Cody Malone
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Cody Malone]
#2874561
12/28/11 01:09 AM
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Chief Joe
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"It is the same boiling water that softens the rice, which hardens the egg." It's not always about the circumstances, but what you are made of....
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Chief Joe]
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12/28/11 01:20 AM
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txshntr
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Re: Hunting accident
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12/28/11 01:23 AM
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BigRon
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Prayers out for the hurting family.
God is so good to me.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: BigRon]
#2874660
12/28/11 01:40 AM
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jeh7mmmag
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Prayer to family and friends.
�Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul.� ~ John Muir
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: jeh7mmmag]
#2875177
12/28/11 05:25 AM
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MVILL
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: MVILL]
#2875338
12/28/11 12:43 PM
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Bradbiggs
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Sorry to hear this remember hunters be extra careful out there
God speed
The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. --George Patton--
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: IndianShikari]
#2875484
12/28/11 02:13 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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http://www.kxxv.com/story/16399083/hill-county-hunting-death-under-investigationSadly, this sounds like it was an accident waiting to happen. The deceased was part of the group involved with driving hogs to the hunters and he was wearing black (which some hogs are black) instead of high vis. hunter orange or other non-hog bright color. As the hunter had already shot one black hog, he apparently confused the hunter in black for another hog and shot him as well. Wow. Don't dress like your intended prey and always identify your target properly.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
#2875891
12/28/11 04:42 PM
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J_squared
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Rough situation! Prayers go out to the family! Like Double Naught Spy suggested, a little caution can go a long way! It won't ease the shooters mind as I as I am sure he is tore up about it! But if we can take something postive out it, a little preparation may be it.
Last edited by J_squared; 12/28/11 04:44 PM.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: J_squared]
#2875910
12/28/11 04:50 PM
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PIG_STICKER
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If u can see IT!!! U can HIT IT!!!!!
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: PIG_STICKER]
#2876130
12/28/11 05:55 PM
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TxAggie97
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Condolences for the family & friends.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: TxAggie97]
#2876143
12/28/11 05:59 PM
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BMD
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Prayers for all involved.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: BMD]
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12/28/11 06:18 PM
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Mikeflies
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Family Moto: It Starts with ME, I Believe, I'LL NEVER QUIT...
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Mikeflies]
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12/28/11 06:26 PM
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jmc82
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: jmc82]
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12/28/11 08:41 PM
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Rob3tx
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Rob3tx]
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12/28/11 08:49 PM
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Dwight
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Dwight]
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12/28/11 09:07 PM
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jmc82
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I am a firm believer that with humans, there are no accidents. In this case, there were at least 2 people negligently responsible. One was the man who died for dressing in dark clothing resembling the color of an animal. The other was the shooter that made a shot when he was unsure of his target or what was behind it. DOn't get me wrong, I feel bad for all involved. I just don't use the word accident. An accident is when a tornado blows a limb on to your truck.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: jmc82]
#2876713
12/28/11 09:31 PM
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tejaschaos
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JMC82, I just read your post about the guy who's ex shot down his Christmas. Now this. Kiddos to a tool trolling this site stirring the pot. Classy moves, thanks for sharing your distorted perceptions.
Last edited by tejaschaos; 12/28/11 09:32 PM.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: jmc82]
#2876736
12/28/11 09:35 PM
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dfwroadkill
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Prayers out. It is always sad when something so avoidable like this happens.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: dfwroadkill]
#2876893
12/28/11 10:20 PM
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whenmommaletsme
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I feel for all envolved. I had a gun discharged in my truck this year. so I know first hand how quickly things happen. Being a fireman we see lots.NOT to feed the troll there is a train of thought that there is no accident.the all are predictable and preventable. acts of nature stand alone.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: whenmommaletsme]
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12/28/11 11:15 PM
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jmc82
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I feel for all envolved. I had a gun discharged in my truck this year. so I know first hand how quickly things happen. Being a fireman we see lots.NOT to feed the troll there is a train of thought that there is no accident.the all are predictable and preventable. acts of nature stand alone. I'm not trolling. I just call it like it is. I caught the same crap for saying glocks don't accidentally discharge and that inanimate objects lack the ability to act on their own. It requires human involvement or nature. Some people just cannot handle the truth.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: jmc82]
#2878478
12/29/11 02:33 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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Right. You had a group of people working as two teams. You had a team of hunters with guns and a team of drivers. The goal is for the drivers to drive the hogs to the hunters. Such tactics are dangerous. They can be done safely, but only if everyone involved does their job properly and takes the proper precautions.
This did not happen with this hunt.
The killed driver appeared in a location that the hunter did not expect a driver to be. So basically, that put him in the hunter's kill box/zone. The driver was not wearing anything distinctive to separate him from the hogs and in fact was the same color of at least one of the hogs, the one hog being the one the hunter had just shot previously. The driver apparently was not doing anything to make clear that he was not one of the hogs. The hunter shot at the new black target that he failed to identify, simply shooting at what was in his kill box/zone. The stupidity of not identifying one's target properly is off the scale, but happens several hundred times a year in the US and Canada according the IHEA hunter incident reports. This is basically the worst case scenario when it comes to not properly identifying your target. Other times, hunters shoot cattle, horses, goats, pets, etc. thinking they are shooting at something like deer or hogs.
So there are a whole myriad of screwups here, many of which were apparently in place before the hunt started. So this isn't just an accident, but multiple acts of negligence on behalf of at least both of the participants involved in the shooting death. If the shooter and victim were not the drive's organizer, the the drive's organizer is also responsible for organizing and conducting an unsafe drive.
Extraordinarily dangerous activities require extraordinary precautions and such precautions were not taken here and the screwups were in place before the hunt ever started.
The fact that the victim was wearing all black should have been noted as a problem by all those involved when folks got together before the hunt to discuss roles and duties. Black is a very common color of hog. It should have clicked that "Bryan is wearing black and will be driving the hogs. The hogs likely will be black as well. Somebody get Bryan a hunter orange vest so we don't shoot him as a hog! Wait, all the drivers should have on hunter orange vests."
So jm82 is right. This isn't an accident in the sense that nobody was responsible. The hunter was trying to intentionaly kill his target and he did kill his target. Strangely, he took the time to sight his target, but didn't take the time to identify his target properly. That is no accident. That is negligence.
The really sad part is that this terrible incident could have been precluded at numerous points along the time line starting with when the hunt was planned and up until the shooter pulled the trigger, and everone involved failed to keep this from happening.
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Re: Hunting accident
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
#2878537
12/29/11 02:51 PM
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TreeBass
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Sad to hear stuff like this, prayers out to the family and friends Right. You had a group of people working as two teams. You had a team of hunters with guns and a team of drivers. The goal is for the drivers to drive the hogs to the hunters. Such tactics are dangerous. They can be done safely, but only if everyone involved does their job properly and takes the proper precautions.
This did not happen with this hunt.
The killed driver appeared in a location that the hunter did not expect a driver to be. So basically, that put him in the hunter's kill box/zone. The driver was not wearing anything distinctive to separate him from the hogs and in fact was the same color of at least one of the hogs, the one hog being the one the hunter had just shot previously. The driver apparently was not doing anything to make clear that he was not one of the hogs. The hunter shot at the new black target that he failed to identify, simply shooting at what was in his kill box/zone. The stupidity of not identifying one's target properly is off the scale, but happens several hundred times a year in the US and Canada according the IHEA hunter incident reports. This is basically the worst case scenario when it comes to not properly identifying your target. Other times, hunters shoot cattle, horses, goats, pets, etc. thinking they are shooting at something like deer or hogs.
So there are a whole myriad of screwups here, many of which were apparently in place before the hunt started. So this isn't just an accident, but multiple acts of negligence on behalf of at least both of the participants involved in the shooting death. If the shooter and victim were not the drive's organizer, the the drive's organizer is also responsible for organizing and conducting an unsafe drive.
Extraordinarily dangerous activities require extraordinary precautions and such precautions were not taken here and the screwups were in place before the hunt ever started.
The fact that the victim was wearing all black should have been noted as a problem by all those involved when folks got together before the hunt to discuss roles and duties. Black is a very common color of hog. It should have clicked that "Bryan is wearing black and will be driving the hogs. The hogs likely will be black as well. Somebody get Bryan a hunter orange vest so we don't shoot him as a hog! Wait, all the drivers should have on hunter orange vests."
So jm82 is right. This isn't an accident in the sense that nobody was responsible. The hunter was trying to intentionaly kill his target and he did kill his target. Strangely, he took the time to sight his target, but didn't take the time to identify his target properly. That is no accident. That is negligence.
The really sad part is that this terrible incident could have been precluded at numerous points along the time line starting with when the hunt was planned and up until the shooter pulled the trigger, and everone involved failed to keep this from happening. Excellent post
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