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Don't you hate it when ...... #285257 12/28/07 07:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX O okbowhunter OP Veteran Tracker
OP okbowhunter Veteran Tracker O Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX	These seem popular thought I'd throw another one out there. Earlier in the year I was rifle hunting out of a blind on public land. Sitting on a strip of green stuff when at exactly 7:10am a hunter decked out in orange walked into the green stuff 125 yards down with his head down obviuosly looking for deer sign. I whistled and he looked up spotted my orange cap tied to the top of my blind and quickly disappeared back into the timber the way he had come. Yes I know it's public land but someone tell my why a hunter would be out walking at prime deer time?!?! I could understand 11am, noon, 1pm but at 7am to be out walking the woods?

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: okbowhunter] #285258 12/28/07 07:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 31,988 Boerne TX/Garven Store T txtrophy85 THF Celebrity
txtrophy85 THF Celebrity T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 31,988 Boerne TX/Garven Store	not all hunters are stand hunters. you have a pretty good chance of slipping up on a deer skirting the edge of a field. such is the price you pay (or don't pay) for hunting public land. don't feel bad, on our place in south texas, i've had a few hunts boogered by people riding fencelines, it happens, part of hunting For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: okbowhunter] #285259 12/28/07 07:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,882 325 C CTK3 Extreme Tracker
CTK3 Extreme Tracker C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,882 325	maybe he drank to much the night before and had gotten a late start. i've done that before. or maybe he was doing a spot and stalk?

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: CTK3] #285260 12/28/07 09:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 95 mckinney,texas J Jerry Outdoorsman
Jerry Outdoorsman J Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 95 mckinney,texas	I hunt private land that backs up to Corp property. Yesterday at 5:30pm I had a guy and his black lab walk by 100 yards from my tree. They weren't hunting, just walking. I've had people on horseback do the same thing. Mornings aren't worth it because of the 4-10 car loads of duck hunters. They spend 2 hours making noise and maybe shoot 5 times all morning. It's the price we pay for hunting next to corp land but it doesn't make me feel any better. If it weren't for the quality of deer in this area, I'd wouldn't put up with it. I now hate duck hunters, horseback riders and men walking dogs.... Jerry www.northtexasguideservice.com

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Jerry] #285261 12/28/07 09:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,089 Panola County E elkhunter7x6 Pro Tracker
elkhunter7x6 Pro Tracker E Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,089 Panola County	Putting bait out and camping out in a blind waiting to ambush is not the only method of deer hunting. Quote: I now hate duck hunters, horseback riders and men walking dogs.... Sounds pretty self centered.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: elkhunter7x6] #285262 12/29/07 12:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,966 Waco, Texas J jdickey Extreme Tracker
jdickey Extreme Tracker J Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,966 Waco, Texas	Spot & Stalk is one of the most popular methods of hunting "Public Land". Bigfoot Research Specialist http://www.texlaresearch.com/

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: okbowhunter] #285263 12/29/07 05:19 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,659 Central Texas H Hopedale THF Trophy Hunter
Hopedale THF Trophy Hunter H Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,659 Central Texas	You are not looking at this from a postive. Someone walking through the woods, is driving deer into you. The down side, there were no deer in your area for him to drive to you. Did you see anything at all that day?

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Hopedale] #285264 12/29/07 10:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX O okbowhunter OP Veteran Tracker
OP okbowhunter Veteran Tracker O Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX	Yeah I thought about that later but I wasn't set up for that I was set up for deer coming into the green stuff not for deer being pushed. I suspect if he did push deer by me they would have traveled through the draw behind me they weren't going to come trotting down the middle of the green stuff with a shoot me sign hanging around thier neck. No I didn't see anything that day in fact haven't seen much up there at all just alot of deer sign -- but no deer.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: CTK3] #285265 12/29/07 10:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,339 N. Fort Worth C caldwelldeerhunter THF Trophy Hunter
caldwelldeerhunter THF Trophy Hunter C Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,339 N. Fort Worth	Quote: maybe he drank to much the night before and had gotten a late start. i've done that before. or maybe he was doing a spot and stalk? Or maybe he was still drunk and lost in the woods, I have done that before too If I put my wife in a high fence will her rack get bigger?

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: caldwelldeerhunter] #285266 12/30/07 10:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX O okbowhunter OP Veteran Tracker
OP okbowhunter Veteran Tracker O Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,043 Frisco TX	ha I'm with ya on that one -- but dang it, good morning to see deer and it was prime time. Happens I guess, I packed out and went to have some breakfast.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: okbowhunter] #285267 12/31/07 12:56 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas Crazyhorse THF Celebrity
Crazyhorse THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas	It has only been the last 4 or 5 years that I would stay in a blind past 7:15 to 7:30. I have always had better luck still hunting or doing spot and stalk. Setting on a stand can be productive, but not always and it is not for everyone.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Crazyhorse] #285268 12/31/07 12:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 31,988 Boerne TX/Garven Store T txtrophy85 THF Celebrity
txtrophy85 THF Celebrity T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 31,988 Boerne TX/Garven Store	Quote: I have always had better luck still hunting or doing spot and stalk. Setting on a stand can be productive, but not always and it is not for everyone. this is true, i've done very well getting aggresive in my hunting and walking/stalking animals. in south texas its hard to do, but if you know of a field or area where they are feeding, i like to glass from a distance, and if i see something, sneak up on it, if not, move on For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Jerry] #285269 12/31/07 01:08 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 35,140 B Brother in-law THF Celebrity
Brother in-law THF Celebrity B Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 35,140	Quote: I hunt private land that backs up to Corp property. Yesterday at 5:30pm I had a guy and his black lab walk by 100 yards from my tree. They weren't hunting, just walking. I've had people on horseback do the same thing. Mornings aren't worth it because of the 4-10 car loads of duck hunters. They spend 2 hours making noise and maybe shoot 5 times all morning. It's the price we pay for hunting next to corp land but it doesn't make me feel any better. If it weren't for the quality of deer in this area, I'd wouldn't put up with it. I now hate duck hunters, horseback riders and men walking dogs.... That's funny right there!

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Brother in-law] #285270 12/31/07 01:14 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,235 Scleicher County H highlonesome1 THF Trophy Hunter
highlonesome1 THF Trophy Hunter H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,235 Scleicher County	That is one thing you will never deal with at High Lonesome. My mission is to let sportsmen apply their skills; be it still hunting or hunting from a blind. I have hunted public lands and do not like the crowds.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: highlonesome1] #285271 12/31/07 02:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Fort Meade, MD A armedferret Bird Dog
armedferret Bird Dog A Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Fort Meade, MD	hunting means different things to different people. i try to spot and stalk and/or track as much as possible because to me, that's "hunting"--i.e., searching around, looking, trying to locate. don't get me wrong. some days i feel like sitting around and waiting too. but more often than not i'm up and about challenging myself with tracking and stalking an animal.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: armedferret] #285272 12/31/07 11:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 95 mckinney,texas J Jerry Outdoorsman
Jerry Outdoorsman J Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 95 mckinney,texas	Elkhunter7x6, I was kidding about hating these guys. We know we'll have these problems hunting next to public land. I think sitting in a tree with a bow and killing a deer under 20 yards is more of a challenge than sneaking within 200 yards and shooting one with a rifle? I agree with stalking but most people couldn't stalk an elephant if they were tied to it's tail. Jerry www.northtexasguideservice.com

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Jerry] #285273 12/31/07 01:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas Crazyhorse THF Celebrity
Crazyhorse THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas	Quote: I agree with stalking but most people couldn't stalk an elephant if they were tied to it's tail. Stalking white tail deer is bunches easier than stalking elephants. You need to do some more reading and check out some of the sites on the web that are geared more toward hunting in Africa. Getting within killing range of one particular elephant can take many days and cover dozens of miles. White tails can be ridiculously easy if a person knows what they are doing and pays attention to what is going on around them when trying it. JMO.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Jerry] #285274 12/31/07 02:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Fort Meade, MD A armedferret Bird Dog
armedferret Bird Dog A Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Fort Meade, MD	Quote: I think sitting in a tree with a bow and killing a deer under 20 yards is more of a challenge than sneaking within 200 yards and shooting one with a rifle? I don't believe I mentioned stalking with a rifle. I stalk with a bow all the time. Have been fairly successful for meat. Haven't really attempted it for a trophy, but mostly because when you are out there on a level playing field and not hiding, everything becomes a trophy. That's the way it should always be. I strongly encourage anyone who reads this to get out and stalk at least once a season. You won't believe how much you learn just one time out.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: okbowhunter] #285275 12/31/07 05:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10,309 Eagle Mtn Lake P PrimitiveHunter THF Celebrity
PrimitiveHunter THF Celebrity P Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10,309 Eagle Mtn Lake	One year I was hunting Elk north of Gunnison, CO. I had scouted a clear-cut about 200 yards wide that ran down a ridge and into a little valley. At daybreak on opening morning, I was sitting on a pushed-up pile of brush on the ridge loking down. I was wearing solid blaze orange coveralls. About 9:30, some guy walks out into the clear-cut at the bottom, gets directly in front of me, sits down on a stump and breaks out his thermos of coffee. We were facing directly at each other about 500 yards apart. I glassed him with my binos and saw him look at me but continue his snack. I circled around through the woods with the idea that one of us was fixing to get our tail kicked pretty good. I wasn't sure which one of us it would be. By the time I go there, he had packed up and left. Maybe he read my mind. Another time in Wyoming (public land again) my buddy scouted a good set-up for hunting Mule Deer. In the dark of opening morning, he sneaked in to the spot only to find a camp set up with about 15 hunters and their trucks/ATVs in that exact spot so he came and sat with me. That one wasn't anyone's fault but it was the last time I ever hunted public land. Practice doesn’t make perfect. Practice makes permanent.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: PrimitiveHunter] #285276 12/31/07 06:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Fort Meade, MD A armedferret Bird Dog
armedferret Bird Dog A Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Fort Meade, MD	Sir, I have a difficult time believing that CO public land is so full of people you can't hunt it without having someone else around. Been there twice and never had a problem with other folks in the area. Maybe it was because we hiked in around 4-5 miles or so just to get to where we set up camp. Or maybe we just got lucky.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: armedferret] #285277 12/31/07 07:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas Crazyhorse THF Celebrity
Crazyhorse THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas	It all depends on what unit and what season. Grand Mesa can get damned crowded in both first and second rifle seasons. Yes, there are units that don't receive as much pressure, but even those can get crowded with locals.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Crazyhorse] #285278 12/31/07 08:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 718 The Woodlands Township, Texas ... C chestnut Tracker
chestnut Tracker C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 718 The Woodlands Township, Texas ...	What is "corp property"? That's a term I haven't heard before.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: chestnut] #285279 12/31/07 08:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas Crazyhorse THF Celebrity
Crazyhorse THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas	U.S. Army Corp of Engineeers. Many of the lakes across the country were built and are maintained by the C.O.E.. They do have areas surrounding those lakes that are open to the Public for hunting , but as you can read from some of the posts it ain't all fun and games.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: Crazyhorse] #285280 12/31/07 08:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 718 The Woodlands Township, Texas ... C chestnut Tracker
chestnut Tracker C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 718 The Woodlands Township, Texas ...	Thanks. Never thought about who maintained lakes.

Re: Don't you hate it when ...... [Re: chestnut] #285281 12/31/07 09:03 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas Crazyhorse THF Celebrity
Crazyhorse THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,474 Azle, Texas	They don't maintain all of them but they do a bunch of them.

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