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High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 07:06 PM
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Our place is off 183 in the Northern part of Eastland county, North of Cisco, low/no fence. Last weekend, my dad took a doe that had tags in both ears, something we've never once seen before. As far as I know, there's no high fence place around there, but she must have gotten turned out or escaped from somewhere. We hadn't seen her on any of the game cameras prior to this, she just walked up all by herself that morning.
Anybody know of a place around there? There weren't any IDs or phone numbers on the tags, just the tag numbers themselves.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
[Re: Shotgun Willie]
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12/01/11 07:15 PM
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I don't know but would have found a doe with out tags to shoot never know what genetics that doe had
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 07:17 PM
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Yep, that deer wasn't tagged just for the heck of it.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 07:17 PM
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Why? I'm not being argumentative here, just curious as this situation hasn't presented itself before.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 07:19 PM
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nobody is begruding you just saying that the doe was probably a high dollar good genetic breeder and she would have had good impact on your herd if she would have been left to make babies...
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 07:24 PM
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Deer sometimes can still jump a high fence if they take a notion. I wonder how many animals may have escaped places during the fires.
To be determined
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 07:28 PM
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I don't know how far north you are but there is a place off of hwy 6 north of cisco. About 10 miles or so. Don't know how far cross country it is.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
[Re: Yol Bolsun]
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12/01/11 08:49 PM
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I wouldn't have shot a deer with tags in it's ears. It was tagged for a reason. That was probably a breeder doe...
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
[Re: Shotgun Willie]
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12/01/11 08:57 PM
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Why? I'm not being argumentative here, just curious as this situation hasn't presented itself before. we have one that is showing up on the very edge of one of our places.. the property boundary is shared with a large MLD 3 lease so no doubt she is visiting over there as well. The doe came from breeder pens about 3 miles away, got out during a wind storm a few months ago & swam the unfenced river.
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12/01/11 09:03 PM
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People should keep their pet deer locked up if they dont want them shot.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 10:28 PM
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That's a bit of a haul from Cisco, but probably not unheard of, I guess. I'm not sure that he saw the tags prior to shooting, he didn't make mention of it. I'll make sure he pours a little of his Beam and Pepsi on the ground next trip to appease the spirits. That's a good point about the genetics, I'll be sure to spread the word in case it happens again. No telling what's running around since the fires.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 11:16 PM
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/01/11 11:31 PM
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People should keep their pet deer locked up if they dont want them shot. Arent you the smart one what we are saying is leave her to breed there could be alot more benefits from her genetics there is no shortage of Doe.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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I don't know how far north you are but there is a place off of hwy 6 north of cisco. About 10 miles or so. Don't know how far cross country it is. Its either the Lopez or the Gomez. looks beautiful, on the east side of 6 about halfway between cisco and moran
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 01:52 AM
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A little further south is the Heraduras (sp) Ranch. All nice places. I make the drive several times a week. There are another couple to the west but don't have hwy frontage and don't know the name. The Wilks brothers are buying up a heck of a lot of property and HF-ing it all. A couple of billionaires from Cisco who own Frac-Tec.....do a search.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 02:32 AM
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I had a tagged young buck show up on my place this week, he can stay here as long as he likes. Hopefully he turns into something special. Got a 2000 acre HF place close by, i'm sure that's where he came from.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 03:24 AM
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Our place is off 183 in the Northern part of Eastland county, North of Cisco, low/no fence. ... As far as I know, there's no high fence Anybody know of a place around there? There weren't any IDs or phone numbers on the tags, just the tag numbers themselves. There are two or three HF managed ranchs just west of you on CR 104. High dollar commercial hunts, etc. You shot a keeper!!
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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People should keep their pet deer locked up if they dont want them shot. Arent you the smart one what we are saying is leave her to breed there could be alot more benefits from her genetics there is no shortage of Doe. HOnestly, I couldnt care less about what is going on in eastland TX. He was worried about the tags. I say mind over matter. If you dont mind, it doesnt matter. Doe down, sausage for breakfast soon. Everyone here needs to quit pretending to be wildlife biologists. Yalls futile efforts are just that.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 12:42 PM
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What color were the tags?
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 12:53 PM
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"Everyone here needs to quit pretending to be wildlife biologists."
Long way from being an expert on wildlife biology but having been in the livestock business for over a half-century, if someone "donated" me a genetically superior animal, I sure wouldn't convert it into hamburger meat.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 01:54 PM
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She likely came from a breeder instead of a HF ranch. The tags say that she was DNA pedigreed and registered with the State of texas. Ranches don't have to tag any native deer (I think) but breeders have to tag every deer they have. Breeders need very little land and often operate unbeknownst to their locals.
Should he have shot it? That's totally up to his judgement; not ours. Some will say any legal deer is legal game and some will say they would have contacted the local breeder to come get his deer. If you found one breeder, he would know all the rest of them and could have located the owner. Both are right and it's not our place to judge which one he should have done.
In the end, it's the breeders responsibility to confine his deer. But on the other hand, if your high-dollar hunting dog got out of your yard, would you rather your neighbor call you to tell you or call the dog catcher to come pick it up?
As far as distance that an escaped animal can travel...some years back I used to cruise the peanut fields around Whitesboro in the fall evenings just to look at the deer. One evening, I saw what I thought was an Elk in a peanut field on Brushy Creek off Hwy 377 north of town. Deer season was opening in a couple of weeks and I figured somebody would shoot him so I called a GW to report it. As it turned out, it was a Red Stag that had escaped from a game ranch near Pottsboro. I don't know what route he took but it's considerable miles from point A to point B and he was a pretty big animal to have made it that far unseen. They darted him and took him home.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 02:08 PM
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People should keep their pet deer locked up if they dont want them shot. Arent you the smart one what we are saying is leave her to breed there could be alot more benefits from her genetics there is no shortage of Doe. HOnestly, I couldnt care less about what is going on in eastland TX. He was worried about the tags. I say mind over matter. If you dont mind, it doesnt matter. Doe down, sausage for breakfast soon. Everyone here needs to quit pretending to be wildlife biologists. Yalls futile efforts are just that. Futile really, I think there are people here that will argue that obviously have some clue or could harvest seers in the 50's 60's and 70's every year off our lease, some of it is genetics but age and knowing when to shoot plays more into but you continue to think what you want you obviously need to be a game biologist with your superior knowledge
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 02:25 PM
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from what i have heard any deer that escapes a high fence needs to be recaptured or killed they dont want them interacting with native deer for health issues
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 02:36 PM
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more of the tpwd big brother bs if you heard it and it has any validity to it.
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Re: High Fence / Management place in Eastland County?
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12/02/11 02:39 PM
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[/quote] HOnestly, I couldnt care less about what is going on in eastland TX. He was worried about the tags. I say mind over matter. If you dont mind, it doesnt matter. Doe down, sausage for breakfast soon. Everyone here needs to quit pretending to be wildlife biologists. Yalls futile efforts are just that. [/quote]
not sure why you feel the need to bash other guys that you have no clue about....you have no idea what i or anyone else know on this forum....you dont know me, and i dont know you, and with the way you are acting i prefer to keep it that way....please stay on topic. and try a little harder to refrain yourself from making those kind of assumptions....
to the OP, some places also place certain color ear tags in their deer for age structure. all the deer born one year(or released from the breeder pens etc) will have one color of tags, and so on....that way they do not have to make assumptions on how old the deer is....almost gauranteed way to control age of your heard unless the tags get removed somehow.
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