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Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/12/11 10:50 PM
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Ryan F.
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I am wanting to purchase a Burris P.E.P.R. QD mount for my AR. My question is... Do I need to buy a riser for it as well if I want to clear my fixed front sight? My AR has a flat top and when I put my red dot sight on it I had to buy high set rings for it.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/12/11 10:58 PM
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you cant see the front sight with a scope, so no.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/12/11 11:29 PM
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Unless you got a GREAT BIG HEAD, the burris mount will work fine.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 01:44 AM
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Even if I put the red dot on the Burris mount? Reason I ask is because when I mounted the red dot, the rings that came with it sat to low. The red dot didn't clear the middle prong of my front sight. Now with the high set rings, I zeroed the red dot to where it sits on the middle prong.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 03:11 AM
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How would you use a scope mount with two rings for a red dot? The mental image is escaping me.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 08:34 AM
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thats what i was thinking.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 09:39 AM
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Ryan F.
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I never said it was reflex sight. It's a tube type red dot.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 12:17 PM
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ahhh. gotcha. i shouldnt have assumed.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 09:59 PM
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I never said it was reflex sight. It's a tube type red dot. This is a tube red dot sight Are you referring to a rifle scope with an illuminated reticle? Reflex is even different from those two.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 10:08 PM
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No it's not a riflescope. It's a tube type red dot like an aimpoint sight.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 10:09 PM
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Traditional red dots will co-witness with the PEPR and the iron sights.... that's what they are designed to do
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/13/11 10:22 PM
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Traditional red dots will co-witness with the PEPR and the iron sights.... that's what they are designed to do Awesome! That's exactly what I needed to know.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/14/11 12:35 AM
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They make the PEPR with a single ring?
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/14/11 01:22 AM
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They make the PEPR with a single ring? Not sure where you are getting this idea of a single ring?? I don't know if you can tell from the picture but my Red Dot is set up with two high set rings.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/14/11 07:44 PM
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I keep thinking about Aimpoints for some reason. I've honestly never seen a red dot mounted with two rings.
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Re: Question for the AR gurus from a noob!
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11/20/11 03:28 PM
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