So what do you guys think. Every year plenty of non resident apply for our TPWD drawn hunts, which makes it harder for us to draw. Should TPWD be allowing this or not?

Should Non res Hunters be able to apply for drawn hunts here in TX single choice
	Yes
	Yes but only for non premium hunts(ex. hogs, antlerlessdeer)
	No, let residents get more tags
	I dont care I dont apply for drawn hunts
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There are only so many of these and we have lots of hunters here in Texas that are paying taxes.

First off I have never entered for one of the draw hunts but I do think out of state hunters should be allowed to apply. Those applications equal more money for TP&W and that means more money for our state and our wildlife conservation efforts.

NO!

They were set up for Texas hunters.

Yes, they could enter but with different rules then what are currently in place. Not the big time hunts i.e. Big horn sheep, Gemsbok, etc., but white tail deer and hogs sure. They must front up the money for the licenses that would be needed and then it they are not drawn the license cost could be refunded if requested. If they are drawn but are no shows they get nothing back. If they do show they get to hunt but all the fees were paid on the time of entering the drawing. Out of state hunters would not accumulate points for future drawings.
State residents and active military personal stationed in Texas would only have to submit application as per current regulations. No money up front other than the application fees. If this were to happen the state gets more money from out of state hunters up front so that if they are not serious they will not apply.

There is no mention of "Texas Hunters only" in the draw manual or on the application. I might be wrong, but I don't remember a limit to Texas Hunters only in the hearings when this program was first set up (I didn't keep up with ALL the minutes) One doesn't even have to have a hunting license to apply - just have one when you get there.

Having said all that, I do believe that the percentages should be revisited and more draws made available to residents. That is what other states are doing - NM was the latest. I also think the license fee schedules should be revisited. In Colorado the non-resident tag for deer (this year) is $334 and $34 for resident. Texas percentage NR to R is close, but look how long the season is and the number of tags. I won't even get into ELK tags and that is what most of NR are going after. Colorado is making a killing off of the Out of Staters. If I just want scenery I'll go up and just camp during the summer.

agree with JCB. and lets not forget all the other $$$ they bring to the state when they come down for their hunt and end up spending on lodging, shopping, eating out, etc. it's good business for Texas, and especially good business for the small communities near the hunting grounds. just saying... :o)

maybe - as a few others have already mentioned - there should be some sort of "quota" as to how many non-resident spots will be given away per year?

I agree with dutton. I think they should be able to hunt here like we hunt there, but it should be restricted some and more than $3 up front from them should be required. I put up $1000 a year to put in for elk and deer in Colorado.

I feel the same way make it more money up front for non residents. Keep the price low for residents.

How about just requiring everyone to buy a hunting licence prior to applying and put the licence number on the application?

yea, but make them pay a little more.

I wish they would hurry up and draw, I am feeling lucky this year.

I am okay with it but they need to pay up front to apply just like Texans have to do to apply to other states. The 5-day non-resident $75 hunting license comes to mind as a prerequisite. I just made a post on the other thread about this same thing.

That non refundable license fee will weed out the Nonresidents that apply just to apply and maybe get lucky, and then go buy their license to hunt.

I still have a Texas Resident Insurance License - Group 1 Life & Health. I sold Supplemental Group Health insurance to business's for 8 years.

Back in the day when I was beating the bush's really hard, I opened more than a few clients that had employee's in out of state locations, that wanted to buy these policy's thru their Texas based home office. Great! Only problem was that the usual circumatance required me as the Agent of Record to be licensed in EVERY state that the Employees's lived in IF I wanted to be paid the comissions. Duoh!

In this situation Texas, and most states I know of or did business in, has agreements with every other state to allow, normally for a fee of course, this to take place without the giant PIA of going thru the testing etc to become licensed in every state you had this situation in...but the Texas Dept Of Insurance regs say that if another state charges $??? or $abcxyz whatever for that Out of State License, then any and all Agents from that State have to pay the same exact amount to become licensed on an Out of State basis in Texas.

Some states charge nothing, some mebbe a couple bux, but some charge couple hundred bux as I remember ...and Texas returned the "favor". Fair is Fair.

I think TP&W ought to start doing to ex. Colorado residents what Colorado is doing to Texans. Eye for an Eye. There is Legal Precedent already in place and no violation of the Federal Interstate Commerce Act would apparently be taking place. JMHO
Ron

Not to mention anti hunters. Imagine what a nationally orgainised anti hunting group could do to our public draw.

Colorado requires a previous years license or you pay a $25 fee per application.
Oklahoma requires a current years license for their draw even if it is only a 5 day.

I buy an Oklahoma license every year for the draw there no matter if I hunt in Oklahoma that year or not.
I buy a Colorado license every year because I apply for enough preference points that it is cheaper than paying the sum of $25 fees.

In a time when TPWD is making cuts and raising fees to us, I agree it is time non residents pitch in. Requiring a current years license would be fair and generate much needed revenue to the state.

i am going to equate this to falconry.
texas has a receprication law to trap birds.
meaning that if a texan can go into another state and trap a bird, then texas will allow a resident of that state to come here and trap.

so i feel the same way about the hunt.
if the state the hunter comes from allows a texan to apply for thoes hunts, then they should be able to come here and apply.
if not then GTFO!!!!!
as stated, it can bring in alot of revenue to TPWD, but fair is fair.

I say yes. If I have to move out of state for whatever reason, I want to be able to keep my preference points and keep applying. Also, if I want to apply for other state's tags, I can. I have no problem with it. They still have to buy Texas licenses and pay the fees. More funding for TPWD as far as I'm concerned.

Yes... They should set aside x amount to get auctioned off like Gov tags.

I have heard of this happening in other states. One reason why they charge the nonrefundable fee.

I like the eye for an eye approach but it would be difficult to set up with the way this stuff changes from state to state time to time. I think the most practical thing is to require a full license or 5 day NR license to apply. Not just $3 and you are in the draw and guaranteed a PP.

No, not at same that we pay.

Yes, but with an *. I don't currently like the system as it is compared to other states, but if we ban non-residents from our drawings then other states could do the same for us. Then it would be bye-bye public hunting opportunities for elk/mule deer and Texans would have to pay premiums for land owner tags out of state.

I think what gets me the most are the "Residents" that get drawn and don't even go. Don't know how many post I've seen (not necessarily here, but other forums) that people say they were drawn for "X" WMA and not going to go. Why even apply if you already know you can't go on the dates listed for that hunt.

I am one of those "residents" you are writing about. Over 20+ years of applying I have missed four hunts and none of them due to my fault. One was a gator hunt at Murphree. The two other hunters(relatives) backed out within a few days and left me without a boat. Two other hunts were youth hunts that my nephews were distracted preteens and did not want to go. Last year I was again drawn for a gator hunt at Murphree. Since I have become disabled I cannot go by myself and I could not get anyone to help me. My 10 year old nephew did offer to help though

There will be drawn hunters who will miss an upcoming future hunt. They will miss for all types of reasons. I do agree with if they are not going to go why put in for the drawing. TPWD should make it an option on the hunts to choose whether to actually register for the hunt or choose preference points for next season. TPWD would still get their much needed funds either way. My

i saw yes but with a 10:1 ratio. compared to many other states texas has very little public land. i know they boast about having 1.5 million acres of land but majority of that is dove/duck, i'm not certain but would bet that when you see public land around a lake they also count the surface area of the water as 'public hunting' land, which it is not really hunt able.

one thing i wish texas did: if a draw hunt winner contacts the field office where he is hunting and informs them he cant make it or if the field office has left over tags you could call a few days ahead and take his spot or purchase/reserve a tag over the phone instead of making a early morning trip to the designated office to even see if there are extra tags available.

Ok, I am a nonresident and I should be able to apply to hunt public land in Texas if I want too. Of course as an out of state hunter I would have to pay the extra cost of license, etc. I don't mind paying a fee for applying as I do when I put in for the draw in Colorado. I live next to a FWR and have hunted it all my life. But now there are more Texas trucks then Arkansas most of the time, plus you are able to draw for permits in Arkansas also. The only thing I want to hunt in TX is your mule deer and exotics. I have plenty of white tail to hunt. Keep coming to Arkansas and hunting I have no problem with it!