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Re: Got millet?
[Re: sprigspanker]
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08/25/11 12:32 AM
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duckbill
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My ex girlfriend said she felt manipulated.
Hope this helps. Was that when she found out about your boyfriend?
Yeah, don't listen to me. I'm just an idiot.
Lol. Duckbill that was funny! The dude up top has already taken lots of bone before this deer, both mule and whitetail.
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 01:08 AM
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My ex girlfriend said she felt manipulated.
Hope this helps. Was that when she found out about your boyfriend? :Yikes:
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 01:49 AM
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It is a joke when folks try to argue with Rob on things like this....
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 02:03 AM
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Too bad we don't have a GW on the forum. Trust me..... there is one somewhere out there
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 01:31 PM
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Guy
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I guess when I picture "crops" I picture a field being farmed and harvested for that crop, not the edge of a pond. I thought that's where the normal agricultural harvesting verbage came in. I may be wrong on this, but my interpretation, I think where the normal agricultural harvesting practices comes into play is with 1) manipulation and 2) 10 day rule as follows: Manipulation: If you are following normal agricultural harvesting practices, you can manipulate (either harvest, shred, plow, whatever) if normal farming practice and hunt over it. This will all knock seed on the ground. 10 day rule: Planting leaves seed on the ground, if you are following normal agricultural harvesting practices, this rule would not apply. Example, planting winter wheat is normal farming practices during duck season, this will leave seed on the ground, but you can still hunt over that. That’s how I interpretive that. Don't manipulate and follow 10 day rule and you are good on millet.
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 01:59 PM
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Cool beans, and planting corn or rice by hand like this is cool as well correct as long as there are no loose seeds on the ground?
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 03:47 PM
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sprigspanker
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My ex girlfriend said she felt manipulated.
Hope this helps. Was that when she found out about your boyfriend? :Yikes: Sheesh!!! Cant a guy crack a joke around here?
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Re: Got millet?
[Re: sprigspanker]
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08/25/11 04:11 PM
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I have the end-all answer to this debate; spoke with US Fish and Wildlife Headquarters in Virginia, the people who make the rules regarding bating waterfowl etc, including the rules Texas has to follow.
It is 100% legal to hunt planted standing millet, even if planted around tanks alone for the purpose of hunting. They have to be STANDING crops.
After 1 year if it grows back you are allowed to do whatever you want to that crop ie mow, cut, trample, burn, roll around naked in, because it is now natural vegetation.
Year 1, plant it flood it hunt it, but don't touch it. Year 2, do whatever you want to it.
Hope this helps, I have no investment in this discussion just thought I would do my best to help all those involved.
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 04:14 PM
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QuackerJacks
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He also said you can use any other crop the same manner; such as corn but you cannot cut it, it too must be standing because it is not natural if planted in last year.
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Re: Got millet?
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08/25/11 05:32 PM
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I know I kinda started this discussion, so I should post something... I had the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the NRCS, and the TP&W Game Wardens come out to my property and all three told me I was fine... Also, the USFW Chief Biologist for N. Texas, (that was out here over a year ago) told me I had voluntary millet growing in several of my ponds, and in the wetland areas. Thus millet had already existed and that it would be "legal" to over seed the area with more millet, as a cover crop for the dirtwork done. With the amount of millet Oklahoma plants on TEXOMA, ducks will eat the millet and then fly South, as they hit other wetlands, and ponds, they CRAP what they eat, which can and will cause areas to produce voluntary millet. There is several water holes that have(had) millet grow on its own. According to USFW and TP&W: millet that is in an area for more then one year is considered natural vegitation, thus, overseeding millet is just adding natural vegitation... Like many have stated. You are fine, as long as you don't manipulate the millet, by mowing, shreading, or whatnot... You are legal if the cows get into it, eat it, trample it, whatever... Like Redleg said, Planting millet is a very high Risk! Takes alot of stars to align for it to do well! BTW, all my millet is doing very well!!!!! J.J.
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Re: Got millet?
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08/26/11 01:07 AM
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Like Redleg said, Planting millet is a very high Risk! Takes alot of stars to align for it to do well! BTW, all my millet is doing very well!!!!! J.J. I planted a decent amount last year and it did well until mid september then burned up around that time. Your gonna need some rain in the next few weeks or it will be in trouble unless the mud you planted in stays wet.
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Re: Millet Planters....
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08/26/11 01:19 AM
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It is so incredible to me that this topic comes up year after year.
It is legal to hunt over planted food as long as it's not manipulated. Period.
I own a large property and have a close relationship with NRCS and Game Wardens and they all confirm.
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Re: Millet Planters....
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08/26/11 03:00 AM
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Lugar
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Manipulation it intentionally knocking seed and food to the ground weather it is by hand or tool. You and your dog will knock some down under normal hunting and that is ok. About 20 yrs ago I hunted next to a marsh that planted corn then brush hogged it instead of combining. They all went to jail and they shut the marsh down for 5yrs. I guess they had been doing it for a few years and the GW got them on video to prove the case. Our hutning improved after shutting them down.
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