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 Whisker buscuit?????
#251588
11/12/07 03:43 PM
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I have a few concerns,questions, etc...
I am going cat hunting in Utah in late December and everything has to be right as far as equipment and readiness go.
I have shot about every kind of rest out there, fall awat, prong, etc... My 2 favorites are the muzzy zero effect and the tiger tuff shur shot.
My guide called today and we talked about equipment. He said that he recommends a whisker biscuit rest for this type of hunting. Just about everyone that has ones loves it, so I may have to go ahead and get one. He says that the worry free design and it's containment factor make it a must for shooting up into trees, not to mention it has no moving parts.
Do you guys who shoot with them like them??????
Thanks in advance,
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
[Re: artofficial]
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11/12/07 03:59 PM
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I just recently went to it. Most or alot of the bowhunters on here are going to bash the whisker biscuit. I was sold on it for the practical use for me, which is hunting. The bow shop owner highly recommended it. The only problem I encountered was that it was hitting the strings on release, thus damaging my vanes. Always go cock vane out, and watch your clearance and you should be good. As far as arrow speed, if 3 to 5 fps slower bothers you then don't get it. That's about all it slows the arrow down. On the down side. You will have to have your arrows revaned more often, is the downfall. But to me the other still outweigh the purpose. The arrow stays in place, and is ready when you are. It's pretty quiet on drawback and even release. It is a very basic no frill designs, that at least works for me. Accuracy wise, I have no problems, except human error. I shoot the Muzzys and the Eastmans in 100 grain. It is a tack driver. I really like it, and for me it is the best rest for hunting purpose. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
[Re: artofficial]
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11/12/07 04:13 PM
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Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 04:59 PM
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i love them for hunting but alot of target shooting it is tuff on the vanes
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 05:33 PM
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Do you guys who shoot with them like them??????
I thought they were the greatest thing since pockets on a shirt until I shot a full capture drop away. You couldn't give me a WB now. I'm sold on the drop aways.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 06:00 PM
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Do you guys who shoot with them like them??????
I thought they were the greatest thing since pockets on a shirt until I shot a full capture drop away. You couldn't give me a WB now. I'm sold on the drop aways.
I couldn't agree more. People that have them will argue that they are great. Why? Usually b/c they don't know any different. The "practical use" argument doesn't hold up. I can't remember the last time I shot my bow up side down?!? A lot of guys who bow hunt a lot, use drop aways. The WB allows you to be sloppy, deliberate, and have bad form. All the things you don't want to do when "hunting"!!
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 06:05 PM
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I agree with hunter ted i personally dont like them i prefer a fall away ,ive shot about every style rest and prefer fall away ,a full capture rest you get the best of both worlds,,,jm.02
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 06:08 PM
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I have a WB on my new bow(took it off my old cheap set-up) and it works fine. I wasnt able to pay the 90.00 on the drop away rest i wanted but it will be on my bow next year. Go with what your comfortable with!
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 07:25 PM
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The problem in asking for people's opinion is that everyone has one. My advice to you is to go to your local archery shop and try them both out. If you are an experienced archer I think you will appreciate the performance aspects of the fall away. If you are less experienced I would go with the WB. It's absolutely idiot proof. Ultimately it comes down to what you are confident with. If you are confident in your equipment you will be more accurate and more successful as a whole. I shoot a 25 year old Fred Bear Whitetail bow. Why? Because I'm confident with it and I can drive tacks with it at 40 yds. Why change?
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
[Re: gnuts]
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11/12/07 08:30 PM
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I shoot a 25 year old Fred Bear Whitetail bow. Why? Because I'm confident with it and I can drive tacks with it at 40 yds. Why change?
Man, just think what you could do with a good bow!!!
I am experienced and shoot with a shur shot and a muzzy rest now, but with the hunt coming up, I'll be shooting pretty much in the air in a tree. The guide said to get a containment rest like the WB.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 09:03 PM
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I know my bow is a POS but it still knocks 'em down. It's also very fun to show up the guys at the practice range that clearly spend more time worrying about what people think about their bow than practicing. Anyways, I would tend to agree that if you are going to be shooting a weird angles that a WB might be the way to go. Some people would tell you that it slows down your arrows too much, but shot placement is 1000 times more important than speed. I doubt that the Indians were very concerned with the fps they were getting from their longbows.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 09:11 PM
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I agree!
The shot will be 10 yards or 20 max, so it's not a technical issue. I'm getting 290 plus, so I could lose a few FPS and still be quick.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 09:15 PM
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You'll be fine with the WB, just make sure you get the right size for the diameter of your arrows.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/12/07 10:00 PM
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Hey artofficial,
I'd recommend you try the WB since you've already shot fall aways. I put a WB on my bow last year and I really like it. Like most good things in life, it's simple. No moving parts also keep it quiet. The containment factor is one of the things I like best about it, not only for awkard shots, but also if you are stalking an animal, you don't have to worry about your arrow getting away from you. HunterTed's comments re the full capture drop away are interesting. I haven't looked at changing mine, because if it's working, don't fix it ala gnuts Fred Bear! Good Luck on your hunt!
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 12:31 AM
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I just recently went to it. Most or alot of the bowhunters on here are going to bash the whisker biscuit. I was sold on it for the practical use for me, which is hunting. The bow shop owner highly recommended it. The only problem I encountered was that it was hitting the strings on release, thus damaging my vanes. Always go cock vane out, and watch your clearance and you should be good. As far as arrow speed, if 3 to 5 fps slower bothers you then don't get it. That's about all it slows the arrow down. On the down side. You will have to have your arrows revaned more often, is the downfall. But to me the other still outweigh the purpose. The arrow stays in place, and is ready when you are. It's pretty quiet on drawback and even release. It is a very basic no frill designs, that at least works for me. Accuracy wise, I have no problems, except human error. I shoot the Muzzys and the Eastmans in 100 grain. It is a tack driver. I really like it, and for me it is the best rest for hunting purpose. Best of luck to you.
You should always shoot cock vane up.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 01:25 AM
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I was shooting my cock vane down like always and the bowtech at Outdoor Pro shop in Garland said to shoot the cock vane up. That way there's less chance of wrinkling the vanes.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 03:00 AM
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Hey artofficial,
The containment factor is one of the things I like best about it, not only for awkard shots, but also if you are stalking an animal, you don't have to worry about your arrow getting away from you. HunterTed's comments re the full capture drop away are interesting.
I'm tellin you........I loved the containment that I got from the WB. I do a lot of spot and stalk hunting and I didn't want to give that up. When I bought my new Switchback XT last year, the pro at the archery shop showed me the Vital Bow Gear Kaz Away. I can turn the bow completely upside down and the arrow never ever moves. I shoot 10 times better with the drop away rest than I ever did with the WB. I went from being a mediocre shot at 30 yards to being able to get the job done out to 50 yards.
The concept of the WB is a great one. For me it just does not work as well as the drop away does.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 03:39 AM
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With full containment, I'd be willing to try a drop away. The guy that was huting with my brother this week, owns the Willow Creek Archery Shop in San Diego Calif. He warned me to be real carful with which drop away you choose. Saying some don't drop away fast enough and still make contact.
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Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 04:36 AM
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Mike, I have not met anyne yet that shoots the rest I shoot that doesn't absolutely love it. I got dgilbert to change over and OFBHWG put one on his new Drenalin. I have had zero complaints out of mine. It shoots great no matter if I am shooting 4 " or 2 " blazer vanes. My vanes have never touched it at all. Here's a link to the 07 version of the one I have. http://www.vitalgear.net/fallaway-arrow-rests.php
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 04:41 AM
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With full containment, I'd be willing to try a drop away. The guy that was huting with my brother this week, owns the Willow Creek Archery Shop in San Diego Calif. He warned me to be real carful with which drop away you choose. Saying some don't drop away fast enough and still make contact.
Bet he shoots a WB/BB as well huh...   
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 11:29 AM
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He shoots some kind of a deep V drop away, can't remember what it was. That was about the time the Crown started kicking in. For some reason the rest of that conversations kinda fuzzy. http://www.willowcreekarchery.com/
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Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/13/07 04:34 PM
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He shoots some kind of a deep V drop away, can't remember what it was. That was about the time the Crown started kicking in. For some reason the rest of that conversations kinda fuzzy.
http://www.willowcreekarchery.com/
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/14/07 03:38 PM
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My thought is why are you paying a guide if you are not going to listen to him? He says that he recommends a WB for a reason and I would trust him. He is there everyday, making a living at it. This is not a common trip for you probably so why take chances. I love my WB and yes, I have not shot anything else and am a relative newcomer to archery, but so what if a vane gets a little mangled after 50 shots. They are not that costly anyway. I won't trade the sure hold of the arrow for the other proported benefits of other rests. I am sold on the WB.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/14/07 08:25 PM
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I know the difference and pride myself on being a helluva bow tuner. I shoot a WB. I started with a drop-away in 2000 and have gone to a few other drop-aways and back to a WB. I'm sick and tired of guys ragging on something like the WB. Surely it doesn't work. Surely it's not good to have THAT much contact with your arrow. The WB is a great rest. 90% of the rests on the market right now are great.
As for tearing up vanes...I bow hunt. I shoot things with arrows. I've done more damage to vanes from passing through animals, brush, dirt, etc than my WB has ever come close to. If it's tuned right, it's no problem.
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Re: Whisker buscuit?????
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11/14/07 11:18 PM
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Pretty impressive HunterTed to go from 30 to 50 with confidence. I checked the Kaz Away out on the website. It does look pretty snazzy! Any reason why you put that one versus the one designed for Mathews on your XT? I've been shooting a Ultra-Max for 9 years now. It's still a sweet shooting bow. Unfortunately I've been moving around for the last few years and haven't got to hunt with it much since moving back to God's country - Texas in 2005. Had a bad dry spell in Virginia for 5 years with no hunting, but aside from that I've managed to take a deer the last two with her. Longest was 42 yards and closest about 6! I love it, just wish I could do it more often.
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