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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: Alec Castonguay]
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07/27/11 10:53 PM
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not the same deer, they have different antlers.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
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07/27/11 11:07 PM
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not the same deer, they have different antlers. BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That's funny right there!
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: FiiTank]
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07/27/11 11:29 PM
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Odds are its the same deer.
People I hunt with cant figure out why I wont cull yearling spikes.........THATS WHY! Very nice improvement in one year and great pics.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: Alec Castonguay]
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07/28/11 02:21 AM
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I bet the same deer.... you arn't going to shoot him are you?????
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: JCB]
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07/28/11 02:22 AM
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Most likely the same deer but one thing I can assure you that when he is in hard antlers this fall I would keep a close eye on him around kids. He will probably at some time in his life become mean towards people since he no fear of them. Especially around kids. At 2 years of age most grown men could not handle or control a 2 yr old buck if he came after you closer to the rut.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: JCB]
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07/28/11 02:25 AM
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If he is tame enough lead him around to all the feed pens this fall and make sure he has a lot of "dates"......
�Talk low, talk slow and don't say too much.�
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: Ranger Man]
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07/28/11 02:37 AM
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Either way imagin what he will look like when he 4 great deer am pics
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: stxranchman]
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07/28/11 02:38 AM
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Most likely the same deer but one thing I can assure you that when he is in hard antlers this fall I would keep a close eye on him around kids. He will probably at some time in his life become mean towards people since he no fear of them. Especially around kids. At 2 years of age most grown men could not handle or control a 2 yr old buck if he came after you closer to the rut. Lol and folks laugh at me for keeping a hotshot on hand when dealing with the pets
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
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07/28/11 03:24 AM
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It's impossible. Once a spike always a spike. I read it online
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: Alec Castonguay]
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07/28/11 04:10 AM
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I don't think this is the same deer due to differences in white around the nose and the eyes being different. If any other pictures from 1st year show the "tatoo" on the right front leg that this year's pictures clearly show then an arguement could be made for same deer from appearances.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: rifleman]
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07/28/11 11:32 AM
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Most likely the same deer but one thing I can assure you that when he is in hard antlers this fall I would keep a close eye on him around kids. He will probably at some time in his life become mean towards people since he no fear of them. Especially around kids. At 2 years of age most grown men could not handle or control a 2 yr old buck if he came after you closer to the rut. Lol and folks laugh at me for keeping a hotshot on hand when dealing with the pets
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: cameron00]
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07/28/11 12:14 PM
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This is why we have ARs. Pay attention, East Texans. I'll bite my tounge on this one.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: fourtrax]
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07/28/11 02:18 PM
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Looks like the same rip in the ear and also looks to be the right age.
LOL, maybe it was a penned spike a breeder didn't want to feed that expensive feed to so he turned him out! Maybe he'll turn into a bruiser in three more years and one of you will put him on your wall!
High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: Alec Castonguay]
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07/28/11 03:32 PM
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Well, I can't see enough good evidence to say either way. One thing I will say is that on my dad's lease, a lot of the deer behave this way. If they are hungry and used to coming to the feeder, it might just be that they are putting aside their fear for food. To make my point with a good story... whenever we go down to fill dad's feeders in August, which he does not feed all summer, often times there is at least one deer that comes to check things out. By the second filling, there are usually four or five standing around. By the time hunting season gets swinging he can pull up in his pickup, honk the horn and have up to 30 standing there in minutes. This place is low fence, 40,000 acres and he hunts a 300 acre pasture of it. No high fence for 30 miles. We took my son up there last year and watched from the cab of the truck as a 130 inch mule deer buck ate from the tailgate and a 120 inch whitetail stood at 20 yards and ate corn with about 15 other deer and all we did was stop, honk the horn and throw corn around the pickup. They follow him to camp and eat around his camper. Funny thing is, out of 20 hunters on the ranch, he is the only one this works for. Maybe, like him, you are just blessed with the trust of animals.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: jhptxrancher]
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07/28/11 03:58 PM
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I don't think this is the same deer due to differences in white around the nose and the eyes being different. If any other pictures from 1st year show the "tatoo" on the right front leg that this year's pictures clearly show then an arguement could be made for same deer from appearances. Good call jhp. Also, look at the tear ducts on the two deer. Second pic sure has his well defined for less than one year's growth (I assume it's probably closer to only having been 9 or 10 months given furry antlers vs hard antlers). I think you have pics of two different deer. Deer 1 is likely offspring or related to pics 2 and 3. Pics 2 and 3 are older than 1.5 to 2 years, imo. Learned behavior and inherited ear notch? Possibly.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: HuntnFly67]
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07/28/11 04:19 PM
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I don't think this is the same deer due to differences in white around the nose and the eyes being different. If any other pictures from 1st year show the "tatoo" on the right front leg that this year's pictures clearly show then an arguement could be made for same deer from appearances. Good call jhp. Also, look at the tear ducts on the two deer. Second pic sure has his well defined for less than one year's growth (I assume it's probably closer to only having been 9 or 10 months given furry antlers vs hard antlers). I think you have pics of two different deer. Deer 1 is likely offspring or related to pics 2 and 3. Pics 2 and 3 are older than 1.5 to 2 years, imo. Learned behavior and inherited ear notch? Possibly. Not very likely that deer will inherit an ear notch of the same shape and depth and in the exact same place on the ear. Also you are comparing facial and other features to two deer in different seasons of the year. Facial and body hair is a different texture and color in winter vs. summer. Post of pic of the 8 point in hard antlers and with a fall coat and you will see they are the same deer.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: stxranchman]
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07/28/11 04:29 PM
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Like Ranchman said before, if it is the same deer don't try to make a pet out of it. Especially with young folks around. There is nothing more dangerous than a tame "Male" wild animal.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: don k]
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07/28/11 06:28 PM
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Like Ranchman said before, if it is the same deer don't try to make a pet out of it. Especially with young folks around. There is nothing more dangerous than a tame "Male" wild animal. plus the older they get get the grouchier/meaner they get.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
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07/28/11 06:46 PM
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This. I think it's two different deer. i say differnt because the rip in the second pic seems a lot bigger than the first.
The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: stxranchman]
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07/28/11 10:01 PM
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Most likely the same deer but one thing I can assure you that when he is in hard antlers this fall I would keep a close eye on him around kids. He will probably at some time in his life become mean towards people since he no fear of them. Especially around kids. At 2 years of age most grown men could not handle or control a 2 yr old buck if he came after you closer to the rut. The rip is lower and longer on second deer but behavior says it probably is the same,great advice about keeping the kids away Ranchman,people get killed every year by "tame" deer.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it. Don't text and drive.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
[Re: Erathkid]
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07/28/11 10:51 PM
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Most likely the same deer but one thing I can assure you that when he is in hard antlers this fall I would keep a close eye on him around kids. He will probably at some time in his life become mean towards people since he no fear of them. Especially around kids. At 2 years of age most grown men could not handle or control a 2 yr old buck if he came after you closer to the rut. The rip is lower and longer on second deer but behavior says it probably is the same,great advice about keeping the kids away Ranchman,people get killed every year by "tame" deer. Maybe, but don't forget that the buck is still growing in body and skeletal size up to age 4 or so and he had much longer winter hair (even in his ears) in the first pic as a spike, so I think the rip is even longer in the first pic but covered by hair.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
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07/29/11 03:36 AM
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The cut will get larger as the deer ages... Going to continue to do so until it's in the 4-5yo range. With what we see on "tamed down" deer, he'll be timid another year then something will flip and he'll like a little more of a buffer unless there's does involved that are tamed down and like to come greet you (use you for food).
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt? !!Not an AR thread!
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07/29/11 03:36 AM
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Amen brother. Thanks for diggin up those pics. I would not have believed it was possible.
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Re: Pet deer from spike to 8pt?
[Re: Alec Castonguay]
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07/29/11 03:53 AM
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If it is that tame,,,,,why shoot it. Go after something more challenging. Does not appear to be a trophy yet anyway...so let him walk and shoot at something else. If you guys hand fed him, i doubt he will be wild as the rest of the deer ever again.
HLo
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