Today I stopped by a gun store that is known for carrying higher quality guns.

Well, the owner and i started talking. Believe me when I say this guy is a big time critic. I was explaining how my wife (with good intentions) bought a Hi-Point 45ACP for me as a gift. I hated it and I still do. But what he said shocked me. He told me that the Hi-Point Carbine (9mm, 40cal &45ACP) is actually a damn fine weapon but the Hi-Point pistols are crap.

I agree with the pistol comment but can anyone back up his statement about the 9mm?

I can tell you that the Hi-Point Carbines do sell pretty quick on the used market. Could be that they are priced right or it could be that they are a pretty good little gun. Personly I have no use for anything with the Hi-Point name on it.

I'm with you. But daggum, these things were handed out to policemen all across the country. And it is right with my pocket book.

Who/Where/What agencies/departments?

The carbines are good guns. I've had one for 10 years and they are a lot of fun to shoot. Change out the stock to the ATI version and if feels like a totally different gun. I've got a cheap bsa red dot on mine and it's pretty accurate. It's no H&K or Beretta, but for the money and fun, you can't beat em.

I used to have a 9mm carbine. Wish i still had it. Believe it or not, 3" groups at 90 yds with OPEN ghost ring sights is definantly worth the $200 new i paid for it..I have a pistol also, it shoots everytime and never jams, but not the most accurate by all means

Hi points dont even make the police approval list. I think somebody said something as a sales pitch.

I have owned both the .40 and the 9mm. Very accurate and both ran %100. With that said I would not trust my life on it. Good plinkers or camp guns for the money.

i love my carbine. fun gun to shoot and the kids like to shoot it also.

I actually read this on the net. Yea, yea, yea, you can't believe everything you read...

i've heard & read enough positive reviews to give it a chance