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how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? #2259429 04/21/11 04:18 AM
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how do the following rifles perform on the hog shield at 50yds... will the penetrate the shoulder and go through at 50yds on 120lb hogs?
.243 100gr ballistic silvertip
7mm-08 140 gr ballistic silvertip
.308 150gr ballistic silvertip
300 win mag 165 hornady v-max


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Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: jruss09] #2259439 04/21/11 04:32 AM
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the bullet is more important than the headstamp.. with the right bullet, any of them will work.


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: jruss09] #2259441 04/21/11 04:34 AM
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wait are you asking if these will have any problems on pigsconfused2


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: texaspride93] #2259460 04/21/11 04:51 AM
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Put a TSX in any of them and it will!


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just shoot em in the face




Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: preston629] #2259483 04/21/11 05:22 AM
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any of those will work



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Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: kmon11] #2259506 04/21/11 05:54 AM
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I think just about any centerfire rifle will go through a 120# hog at 50yrds...


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Any of those should do it but if you shoot'em in the ear then you dont have to worry bout it


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: ChickenWilly] #2259550 04/21/11 10:54 AM
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in the ear. works everytime


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: East texas deer hunter] #2259728 04/21/11 01:15 PM
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I shot .308 corelocks at a 175 # boar at 50 yards. Hit him 3 times, on three separate occasions. None passed the shoulder plate into the inner cavity.


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: HuntTXhogs] #2259775 04/21/11 01:33 PM
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I shoot a 30-06 at hogs regularly at 250 yards, (which is almost identical in performance to a 308) and have never had one not die. Almost all where pass through.


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: Closed Traverse] #2259880 04/21/11 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: Brandon A
I think just about any centerfire rifle will go through a 120# hog at 50yrds...
That is the only thing I've ever heard coming out of ut that made any sense.


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: helomech] #2259888 04/21/11 02:10 PM
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Federal Fusion .308 165 grain... never had a hog take a single step

Neck shots, shoulder shots, or straight to the boiler room, they're all just as dead


Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: HuntTXhogs] #2259953 04/21/11 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bennybone
I shot .308 corelocks at a 175 # boar at 50 yards. Hit him 3 times, on three separate occasions. None passed the shoulder plate into the inner cavity.


Did you kill and recover the bore? Not if they didnt penatrate... So if you didnt get him then how do you know you hit him and he weighed 175 lbs?

Thats crud!



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Originally Posted By: Bennybone
I shot .308 corelocks at a 175 # boar at 50 yards. Hit him 3 times, on three separate occasions. None passed the shoulder plate into the inner cavity.


I kinda depends what you shoot it out of... 308 Win. 30-06, 300 Win Mag, 300 Wby Mag???



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Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: redchevy] #2260103 04/21/11 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
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I shot .308 corelocks at a 175 # boar at 50 yards. Hit him 3 times, on three separate occasions. None passed the shoulder plate into the inner cavity.


Did you kill and recover the bore? Not if they didnt penatrate... So if you didnt get him then how do you know you hit him and he weighed 175 lbs?

Thats crud!


Easy Man, just sharing information from my experience to the guy....

Here is the story I wrote up on it back in January.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2062365/1

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Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: jruss09] #2260152 04/21/11 04:01 PM
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Shot placement is key. The first 4 hogs I shot were with 22 rimfires; first was with a 22LR Marlin model 60 and the last three with a 22mag revolver. All expired within sight, no tracking involved. All hits were just behind the shoulder. Even broke a rib on a 120# sow, she even fell at the shot and did not get up.

With that said, all 4 pigs were sows...that's just the way it turned out as I do not attempt to ID gender on pigs prior to pulling the trigger. From what I've heard from others, boars may well be harder to kill, regardless of size.

All the loads you listed should work fine.


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I havent had any problems with my .243 or .308. Goes through the hog shield just fine. I am using Winchester 100gr Power Points.



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Originally Posted By: Bennybone
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I shot .308 corelocks at a 175 # boar at 50 yards. Hit him 3 times, on three separate occasions. None passed the shoulder plate into the inner cavity.


Did you kill and recover the bore? Not if they didnt penatrate... So if you didnt get him then how do you know you hit him and he weighed 175 lbs?

Thats crud!


Easy Man, just sharing information from my experience to the guy....

Here is the story I wrote up on it back in January.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2062365/1

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In that story you claim to have shot him with a 270.. now wich is it a 270 or .308?



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Re: how guns perform on hog sheild answers please? [Re: redchevy] #2260276 04/21/11 05:04 PM
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Is there a reason you're concerned with penetration through the plate? The others have it right btw-they'll all punch through it. HOWEVER, if you don't understand hog anatomy, it may surprise you to know that you'll most likely miss the heart with this shot!

If you aim for the ear/neck area, you'll have just as large a target area and it'll shut 'em off like a light switch!

Before I learned and employed the earshot, I used everything from 7mag to .45-70 and saw them run with every caliber at times. One thing to also be aware of, is that hogs can soak up a bunch of lead if you don't hit a 'shut-off' point with that first shot! We recovered many hogs that had been shot with our 7mags using ballistic tips where the innards looked like somebody had run a blender through them! Those hogs ran like greyhounds at the shot and we usually had to track them several hundred yards.

NOW, having said that, I've dropped several with my .243 using corelokts and shooting them in the plate/heart/vitals area. I'm no trick shooter but I did study hog anatomy on another website that you can easily find too, and changed my tactics accordingly! I'm not sure if we're allowed to link or mention other sites, BTW-not trying to be cryptic!



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Originally Posted By: redchevy
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I shot .308 corelocks at a 175 # boar at 50 yards. Hit him 3 times, on three separate occasions. None passed the shoulder plate into the inner cavity.


Did you kill and recover the bore? Not if they didnt penatrate... So if you didnt get him then how do you know you hit him and he weighed 175 lbs?

Thats crud!


Easy Man, just sharing information from my experience to the guy....

Here is the story I wrote up on it back in January.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2062365/1

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In that story you claim to have shot him with a 270.. now wich is it a 270 or .308?


I hope you are just trying to be a funny guy today....

.270 was first shot, he laid down.

Upon going to the field to retrieve him he stood up and ran.

I ran back to truck and pulled the .308 with core loks

Shot him twice in the next 10 mins from 40 -50 yards with that load.

Autopsy shows none of the three shots passed through hide and shoulder plate.

Thats it, thats the truth . Believe it or don't.

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The "shield" is nothing to worry about. Only the biggest boars have anything worth mentioning and even then it is just tough flesh and not bone, kevlar, or steel. Might help against a frangible varmint bullet, but that is about it.

I have never had any problems with penetration even on big boars, the only issues I have ever had with body shots is that even well placed shots to the vitals with a nice exit wound may not bleed all that well or as fast as a hog can run. This leads to lots of fun tracking. I am pretty much a head shot only guy these days, but when I am hunting with someone that insists on body shots I try to get them to attempt to at the very least break a leg. Even then they can run a long ways. I have had a sow make it almost a hundred yards with no heart and a broke leg.

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Everything I shot under 150 through the plate with my 30.06 hornaday superformance rounds, all pass through, all still ran at least 100 feet before dropping.

Though I have a friend who tried to take out a 300 lb sow and his 30.06 superformance round didn't penetrate and she ran off. My other friend who was with him tracked her down and used a 223 behind the ear. In cleanup afterward they found his 30.06 superformance round in the plate, as well as another lead round two inches away from that wound.

So if its big your 308 will need a headshot. If its average to small you should be OK anywhere vital.



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Originally Posted By: Scalpel4
Everything I shot under 150 through the plate with my 30.06 hornaday superformance rounds, all pass through, all still ran at least 100 feet before dropping.

Though I have a friend who tried to take out a 300 lb sow and his 30.06 superformance round didn't penetrate and she ran off. My other friend who was with him tracked her down and used a 223 behind the ear. In cleanup afterward they found his 30.06 superformance round in the plate, as well as another lead round two inches away from that wound.

So if its big your 308 will need a headshot. If its average to small you should be OK anywhere vital.


There is no hog sheild out there that is going to stop 308 or 30-06 ammo unless the hogs start wering kevlar



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That'd be your opinion. I believe all comments here would indicate that the hog plate "shield" has some effect on how hunters approach shooting the hogs for a DRT or quick kill with little tracking...


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