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 Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: jeffbird]
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02/18/11 01:37 AM
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stxranchman
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 Looks like a standard label you find on most herbicides to me. When used in the methods described on the label it works on cactus very well. All products have a label of use and hazards when not used correctly.  These warnings are indicating potentially serious side effects, when applied as indicated. And that is the minimum required disclosure of what is known. What remains unknown? What is suspected, but not yet disclosed? The point is that just hosing down your land may have serious consequences beyond killing the cactus. Go slow and use the methods least likely to have unintended long term consequences. In this instance, the biopersistence, biocentration, and side effects on legumes are some potentially serious things to think about. Something to consider fwiw from today's Wall Street Journal - The rate of fatal occupational injuries for farmers and ranchers is 38.5 per 100,000 full-time workers, versus 4.4 for firefighters, and 13.1 for police and sheriff's patrol officers, according to U.S. Labor Department data for 2009, the most recent available. WSJ Article Link That why it always says to read and follow directions. The key words are "READ AND FOLLOW". That is why they put them on the product since it is labeled as "Restricted Use" and they don't just let anyone who is untrained and not have an applicators license buy it or use it.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: stxranchman]
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02/18/11 01:45 AM
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If the directions are read and followed, those are the disclosed effects when correctly applied.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: jeffbird]
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02/18/11 01:47 AM
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Diesel works 
We get old too fast and wise too slow
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: erniejs]
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02/18/11 01:51 AM
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stxranchman
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Diesel works And you know this how? 
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: stxranchman]
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02/18/11 02:24 AM
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I really hope people aren't pouring diesel every where to kill something.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: Aarskringspier]
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02/21/11 01:17 AM
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diesel and Roundup is a great mix. I used diesel as a drift agent for years, it costs too much now, though, even the off-road stuff.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: Slow Drifter]
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02/21/11 04:53 PM
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I've used diesel mixed with Remedy. Follow the instructions on the label. The pear needs to have moisture in the pads for it to be effective.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: cur-dog]
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02/21/11 09:04 PM
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TexasPI
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+1 on the diesel mixed with Remedy (Remedy Ultra). I was taking out thousands of yucca last year with the Remedy Ultra / diesel and would occasionally run across some prickly pear - so I gave them a spray as well. Checked on the progress a few weeks later and it took care of the prickly pear just as good as the yucca.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: TexasPI]
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02/21/11 10:44 PM
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: White Falcon]
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02/22/11 12:25 AM
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TexasPI
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: stxranchman]
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02/22/11 04:43 AM
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[/quote] Looks like a standard label you find on most herbicides to me. When used in the methods described on the label it works on cactus very well. All products have a label of use and hazards when not used correctly. [/quote] Except most labels don't have: VERY TOXIC TO AQUATIC PLANTS. Do not contaminate an aquatic environment with chemical or empty container. Do not spray over, or allow to drift over, an aquatic environment. Do not use this product on the bottoms of drains, ditches or irrigation channels. HARMFUL TO TERRESTRIAL VERTEBRATES. Use only as directed on this label. CLOVER RE-ESTABLISHMENT: Picloram, an active ingredient in Tordon Brushkiller is injurious to legumes and residues in the soil may prevent early re-establishment after treatment.
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: redchevy]
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02/23/11 03:38 AM
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Burn and follow up with picloram... range science degree from A&M
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: blackfoot]
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02/23/11 04:11 PM
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Our place has a dense cover of tanglehead grass. It will grow to over 6 foot tall in one year and is pretty thick. When you burn that stuff it produces alot of heat and if repeated will kill the brush we have burned a couple spots controll burn and it was pretty hard on the brush. Since then we have kinda slacked off on the controll burn, disk and shred roads and whatever else we can to make way for forbs and new growth.
We have also had one "wild fire" started by a cigaret.
matt
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: redchevy]
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02/23/11 05:20 PM
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mapman5
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blackfoot is right - controlled burn first lets you go with lower rate of picloram (Tordon). less impact on beneficial forbs (weeds).
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: mapman5]
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02/24/11 01:05 AM
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tx270
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Surmount is also labeled for pear now. In fact the TX Ag Extension Service is also recommending it now.
Its also cheaper than Tordon, and in my experience works just as well.
Bill
Last edited by tx270; 02/24/11 01:06 AM.
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Re: How to kill Prickly pear?
[Re: Qwaak]
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02/25/11 01:37 AM
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Qwaak, how bout the recipe for " cheesy corn bread "? Saw it on your blog. Looks good.
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