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 Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 04:40 PM
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Whats your opinion on buying a used Glock or XD? I bought my XD used, and am trying to trade it in the classifieds for a Glock 23, and a guy asked how many rounds have been through it.
I feel like I'd almost rather have a used gun than a new one, since it will be "broken in" and ready to go
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 04:45 PM
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Most people don't even shoot enough to break a gun in anyway. I may shy away from a gun that has had a zillion rounds through it but I generally don't care about a glocks round count and I almost always buy used.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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Can't speak for xd's, but Ive shot about 6-7k through my Glock and never missed a beat. I wouldn't hesitate one second on a Glock regardless of round count.
HOWEVER, I would definitely use it as a barginning chip if the round count looks high if I were the buyer regardless of what my personal beliefs are.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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Can't speak for the XD's, but a Glock with 10,000 rounds thru is nothing. I agree. Get kinda tickled when a firearm goes up for sale here and the 1st question is: Round count? And that's usually on one's that look like safe queens. 
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 04:54 PM
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i dont know if you can wear a glock or xd out. they are both awesome pistols. i think some people are just curious as to how much a gun has been shot. some of my best shooting guns i have bought used.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 04:59 PM
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Whats your opinion on buying a used Glock or XD? I bought my XD used, and am trying to trade it in the classifieds for a Glock 23, and a guy asked how many rounds have been through it.
I feel like I'd almost rather have a used gun than a new one, since it will be "broken in" and ready to go Round count is very important. I think also you are in the minority when you say that a gun with a few thousand rounds in it is a perfect gun that is "broken in", and preferred.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:03 PM
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Whats your opinion on buying a used Glock or XD? I bought my XD used, and am trying to trade it in the classifieds for a Glock 23, and a guy asked how many rounds have been through it.
I feel like I'd almost rather have a used gun than a new one, since it will be "broken in" and ready to go Round count is very important. I think also you are in the minority when you say that a gun with a few thousand rounds in it is a perfect gun that is "broken in", and preferred. Fair enough, now please explain further... Also, where did I say anything about a few thousand rounds?
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:05 PM
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I traded a XD for a Glock and it was a BIG MISTAKE!!!
GLocks cant shoot reloads because of the unsuported chamber and you are not suposed to shoot lead cast bullets either because of the rifleing.
I sold the Glock and bought a SIG and could not be happier
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:10 PM
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Ive shot thousands of reloads thru my Glock, many of them were lead so i dunno what your talking about.
But to answer the OP no round count does not matter, I chuckle when people ask that.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:18 PM
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The Glock 40cal had problems of a barrel with unsupported case and had some case rupture blow outs...
The polygonal barrel was also suggested not to shoot lead bullets due to ?? don't remember what the issue was.
SigArms/Sauer really don't like lead shot thru their guns either.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:22 PM
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Would you pay the same amount of money for a car with 100K miles that you would pay for the same car with 10k miles ?
Anyone can own a fancy gun but can you shoot it ?
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:28 PM
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Would you pay the same amount of money for a car with 100K miles that you would pay for the same car with 10k miles ? I dont think that has any relevance whatsoever to pistols...theres not a 'life expectancy' on firearms like there is on vehicles.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:33 PM
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Would you pay the same amount of money for a car with 100K miles that you would pay for the same car with 10k miles ? I dont think that has any relevance whatsoever to pistols...theres not a 'life expectancy' on firearms like there is on vehicles.  
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:36 PM
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Would you pay the same amount of money for a car with 100K miles that you would pay for the same car with 10k miles ? I dont think that has any relevance whatsoever to pistols...theres not a 'life expectancy' on firearms like there is on vehicles. You're doing good with the Smilies, but a little explanation on your thoughts would help me out more...
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:42 PM
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:44 PM
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I wouldn't hesitate with a high round count XD, Glock or H&K.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:46 PM
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lol okay then...
Anyone else have any valid points on why a gun with <1000 rounds isn't better than a brand new one?
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:49 PM
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Would you pay the same amount of money for a car with 100K miles that you would pay for the same car with 10k miles ? If that used truck with 10,000mi has never had the oil changed and has been over loaded the entire time it was driven off road as a construction/oilfield truck ....then maybe. I think the determining factor on handgun life is the cleaning, lubrication and ammo(excessive pressure hand loads can wreck one) I have seen well maintained pistols that had 5,000rnds through them that were as dependable as could be and I woulndt hesitate carrying; on the other hand I have seen new pistols wrecked with bad cleaning and hot rounds in under 1000rnds.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 05:58 PM
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Any gun still has moving parts, and the more parts have moved the more likely it is to be worn. Accuracy is very relative with pistols, especially semi-autos, so I'm not particularly worried about round count when buying a pistol, but it is a valid question. If something has 5K rounds down the tube, I'm not going to give the same money that I would for something with 500 rounds.
Small parts wear out. To most people, a small part (extractor, ejector, etc) breaking is a nightmare. The average gun owner, though he most likely takes his car in for service every 3-5K miles expects his firearms to run for the next 200 years or so without any form of breakage. Sending one back to the factory is unheard of with many "average" (ie non gun nut) shooters. I know people who have pistols in the safe who never use them because they don't function properly. Send them back? Heck no, that would cost $20!!
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 06:05 PM
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Ive shot thousands of reloads thru my Glock, many of them were lead so i dunno what your talking about.
But to answer the OP no round count does not matter, I chuckle when people ask that. This is my opinion as to round count as well. 500 rounds or 5,000 or 15,000 do not matter to me except as a gauge of use and age. I can say I wouldn't pay the same for the 15,000 rounder as maybe the 500, who would? Any modern pistol can easily handle 100 boxes through it with no problem.
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02/03/11 06:14 PM
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Any gun still has moving parts, and the more parts have moved the more likely it is to be worn. Accuracy is very relative with pistols, especially semi-autos, so I'm not particularly worried about round count when buying a pistol, but it is a valid question. If something has 5K rounds down the tube, I'm not going to give the same money that I would for something with 500 rounds.
Small parts wear out. To most people, a small part (extractor, ejector, etc) breaking is a nightmare. The average gun owner, though he most likely takes his car in for service every 3-5K miles expects his firearms to run for the next 200 years or so without any form of breakage. Sending one back to the factory is unheard of with many "average" (ie non gun nut) shooters. I know people who have pistols in the safe who never use them because they don't function properly. Send them back? Heck no, that would cost $20!! I agree completely. Changing replaceable parts on an average pistol is not rocket science, and is within the skill level of most people.
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02/03/11 06:20 PM
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Relevance between the two wasn't my point. Same gun same price one with 10k through it other with 100, we all would pick the less used one.
Every gun has a life expectancy! Most of us may not live long enough to wear one out but anything with moving parts will wear out.
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Re: Glocks/XDs...does round count really matter?
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02/03/11 07:23 PM
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Ive shot thousands of reloads thru my Glock, many of them were lead so i dunno what your talking about.
But to answer the OP no round count does not matter, I chuckle when people ask that. Here is a link that will explain the unsuported chamber in Glocks and why you wouldnt want to shoot reloads...WITH REALLY GOOD PICTURES http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.htmlThe no lead bullets refers to poloygonal rifling that builds up lead quickly and thus increases pressures The XD has a fully supported chamber and the rifling is different than a glock and I personally put alot of lead bullets through my XD and NEVER had an issue
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My take is this, Pistols is not so important as on Precision rifles as there tighter tolerances with faster bullets that depending on caliber can be shot out at 1500 rds.
Im more concerned wiht holster wear, as I can fire 100rds through a glock and carry it for 15 years everyday and its going to be in worse shape than one thats had 15K rnds fired through but only set up in a safe when not in use. Some people want rounds counts because small parts do need replacing even Glock recomends Replacing stuff as early as 1500-3K rounds.
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