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whats louder #1933090 12/18/10 03:58 PM
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223 vs 12ga

i think the 12ga


Re: whats louder [Re: michael rice] #1933105 12/18/10 04:03 PM
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my buddy says 223 so is a war lol


Re: whats louder [Re: michael rice] #1933126 12/18/10 04:09 PM
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223 without a doubt. I can shoot 12 gauge all day without hearing protection, can't do that with 223 safely.



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Re: whats louder [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #1933142 12/18/10 04:16 PM
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223 55 grain 12ga slug

ok so thats 2 that says a 223 is louder


Re: whats louder [Re: michael rice] #1933392 12/18/10 06:19 PM
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223 all the way


Re: whats louder [Re: ak47] #1933514 12/18/10 07:21 PM
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why


Re: whats louder [Re: michael rice] #1933762 12/18/10 09:54 PM
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One shot from a 16 inch AR will ring your ears. Everyone wears hearing protection when they shoot AR's unless hunting. Nobody I knows wears hearing protection while shooting skeet all day.

I would be the velocity is what the massive difference is. One is give or take 1000-1300 FPS and the other 3000 FPS.



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Re: whats louder [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #1933838 12/18/10 10:37 PM
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.223 is super sonic and thereby creates a sonic boom. Most 12ga are not super sonic.



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Re: whats louder [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #1933897 12/18/10 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: DallasShootingSupplies
Nobody I knows wears hearing protection while shooting skeet all day.



Hope you and your friends are learning sign language.


Re: whats louder [Re: scattergun] #1934058 12/19/10 12:24 AM
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Re: whats louder [Re: 10pointers] #1934073 12/19/10 12:32 AM
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12 Gauge 28" barrel 151.50dB

26" barrel 156.10dB

18 " barrel 161.50dB


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223, 55GR. Commercial load 18 " barrel 155.5dB


Re: whats louder [Re: Skitini] #1934080 12/19/10 12:37 AM
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ok the war is over lol thanks guys the 223 is louder


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actually they seem to be about the same or the 12 ga is louder with a barrel of comparable length according to the data skitini posted



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both guns are h&r single shots the shot gun seems louder to me


Re: whats louder [Re: scattergun] #1935275 12/19/10 05:56 PM
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Nobody I knows wears hearing protection while shooting skeet all day.



Hope you and your friends are learning sign language.


Cheap target loads are not super sonic, its like shooting a 22.



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Re: whats louder [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #1937129 12/20/10 12:05 PM
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IMHO...
Noise induced hearing loss begins with repeated exposure to 85 db and above. The average level of pain for most people is around 120 db. A typical 22 rifle generates 134db. The supersonic crack from a rifle bullet is a very minor sonic boom, directional and rarely (if ever) perceived by the shooter.


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i think they are both loud and if you dont wear hearing protection shooting either one, if you arent deaf you will be soon




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Originally Posted By: michael rice
223 vs 12ga

i think the 12ga
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Re: whats louder [Re: Jake317] #1937869 12/20/10 05:26 PM
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.223 by a long shot.
I made the mistake of shooting a 16" AR a few rounds without ear protection and my ears rang for the rest of the weekend. Like someone else said, I can dove/clay shoot my 12g all day without ear protection and I am fine.



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The 5.56 operates at about 62,000 psi the 12 ga at about 11,000 psi. The .223 is much louder without question.

I won't shoot anything these days without hearing protection. I am completely deaf in my right ear and down to about 40% in my left.


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I think that in actual decibal levels the 12 ga is louder but the .223 like most super sonic rounds has a lot sharper percussion and much higher pitch which causes more damage to your ears. I know I have been to a hearing protection clinic that was said at.That said you should always wear hearing protection. I shot about 25K rounds of .22lr a year for several years and I am just about deaf in my left ear.


Re: whats louder [Re: huntwest] #1942637 12/22/10 02:24 AM
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The 223's yall are talking about wouldnt happen to have breaks on them would they?

I think it depends, my 223 in rem 700 is louder than my 870 pump wiht 28 inch barrel, but if I put my 18 inch slug barel on the 870 and shoot slugs it will leave you ringing all day without plugs.

Oh year and I dont care what 12ga you are shooting unless it is the snap cap designed to let your firing pin down easy it is hurint your ears.

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
The 223's yall are talking about wouldnt happen to have breaks on them would they?



That is probably the biggest contributor to it being louder!!



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I am not really sure what chamber pressure has to do with loudness. A 16 inch Mark 7 gun on an Iowa Class Battleship has a normal service pressure around 49,700 psi. I am pretty sure it is louder than a 5.56 operating at 62,000 psi......


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