Just wondering how impactful yotes are on mature deer. I've had zero camera pics for several weeks at one paticular spot that usually has decent traffic. After a quick scouting trip I found an abundance of stool markings. Finally laid eyes on the bastard when the dogs got me outta bed for the third night in a row to find a yote pacing outside the chicken coup.

Snares and foot traps getting set during xmas.....

I doubt that the yotes have much impact on the mature deer except for the older weak ones. But, I wouldn't doubt they may take a few fawns given the chance.

Yotes can and will impact overall deer population, especially if your area is in a time of drought or stressed range conditions. Which is the case right now in my area. Coyotes will single out any deer that is older or weaker. I would think if their smaller game becomes harder to find they will go after mature deer in packs when they normally would be happy with a rabbit. Just my .02 cents.

I would say for sure they can and have killed them, even ones that arnt old and sick, but I would bet they are last on their list of prey animals. Kindal like lions and cape buffalo, they can kill one but most of the time choose not to.

My uncle has a pet deer, a doe fawn that showed up they started feeding it and it now stays in the yard like a dog, you can pet it and dang near play fetch with it... and man is it funny when a dog comes up to that thing thinking he is going to chase it that deer will flat out kick the crud out of a dog and have it running tail tucked in seconds and its only 1.5 year old doe fawn, imagine what a mature deer with horns could do.

matt

Also just waiting for the study that was brought up earlier this year to turn back up. It stated that coyotes had a large effect on the adult deer population... but if you read the whole article, it said that reducing the coyote population had no effect on the number of deer killed... sounds fishy to me, maybe they eat alot of them, but I seriously doubt they are responsible for actualy killing that many.

I have been to properties with "something killing their pets" And I mean a pit bull! Coyotes did it and ate the dog. Also, been to a 800lbs hefer being killed by coyotes. When in numbers of 3 or more coyotes can take anything down because that darn creature is so darn smart!!! They can solve a problem! Never underestimate a coyote. I have also seen a trophy class buck killed by a group of coyotes, yes not as often as say fawns. Coyotes can desimate a deer herd real quick. I have worked a ranch that had no deer 15 years ago and after 15 years of trapping and taking near 700 coyotes there are a large number of deer all over that ranch now.

Im not as concerned about the yotes killing deer as much as the pressure they might ensue by their presence. As yotes move in, do deer move out....? I would bet there is a corilation.

If hogs will run off deer so will yotes. just my opinion.

Occassionally, this time of year they will pack up and target run down bucks weakened from the rut... especially if they can corner 'em along a high fence.

I watched a video the other day and they stated they found a den with 13 fawn sculls in it. Thats just 1 den

Coyotes = BAD!

They kill fawns, they kill does throughout the birthing process, they harass the deer whenever they are under stress (drought, rut, birthing, etc.).

KILL EVERYONE YOU CAN, every chance you get....

David

Saw a yote drag down a year old doe in Hamilton county one turkey season. We were out calling in the evening. He didn't get a second chance.

Randy Anderson's calling all coyotes 2?


Back to the original topic, yes deer can be impacted. When there is an abundance of coyotes, they deplete their small game meals first then move to deer & other larger prey. They are pack hunters & can take down then devour a deer in no time. A pair of coyotes here & there won't be much threat but larger numbers are a problem.

our yotes must be wussies, were ate up with them, were also ate up with turkey , quail, rabbits, rats, mice, hogs, deer, owls, buzzards, birds, and squirrels.
Theyre not doing a very good job at what there suppose to do.
We never shoot them, hell we could use some help on the turkey and hogs.
If they take a deer or 2 so be it, most all our does have twins this year and theyve all made it.

Not me. If I had a trophy buck and two coyotes in front of me I'd try for both coyotes and not think twice on the buck. They are more than a nuisance on our place. KAC

Exactly, NEVER...EVER pass a chance at a yote or pig. No matter the season or what Im hunting. They never get a free pass.

Intresting topic... I didnt know yotes could bring down deer. I am over run with yotes and never pay them any mind when i see them... Guess ill start pulling the trigger!

I had this exact conversation with a TPWD Biologist last week. He said their research has shown that an average coyote population isn't too harmful on a deer population. A fawn is usually able to run away after about 10 days old; however, during this 10 days, they are definitely in danger.

The part that I thought was so amazing was that he said yotes are one of the few animals that control their own population. If there are allot in the area, they will typically only have 2 to 4 pups in a litter. However, if the opposite is true, they will have 6 to 8 to a litter. He said that once you start aggressively controlling the yotes, expect your numbers to potentially double within 2 years. From a varmint hunting perspective, I thought this was great since you have the ability to create more supply!

Coyotes have a place in the eco-system just like everything else. Part of God's grand plan. I shoot one every now and then but I don't feel the need to exterminate them. They are an apex predator and if they go then something else will get out of whack and cause other problems. Yote's eat more rodents and vermin than deer and that's a good thing.

The biologist mentioned that the yotes keep the fox and skunk population under control, which will greatly help the quail population. Now what hogs do to a the quail population is another topic, but that is for another thread.

Coyotes will kill fawns when they are still very young.
Other wise they pose very little threat to healthy deer.

Im about to put an impact on yotes!

thats what Im talking about. Yote season begins for me on Feb. 1st no mercy!

The idea that the only good coyote is a dead coyote is flawed. All predators are a vital part of their ecosystem. If you kill all the coyotes, bobcats, fox, ring tails, coons, etc... out of an area the entire ecosystem will suffer. Coyotes should be controlled, But they should not be eradicated. If you have a healthy deer population it is probably a good thing to loose a few fawns to predation every spring. If you are loosing mature deer to coyotes then most likely your deer and your coyote populations are way to big.

Thanks, nice lecture - you can believe that "ecosystem" crapola if you want. Its not possible to kill all the coyotes, even hunting them hard (believe me I've tried) - best you can do is reduce their numbers (in other words, your thinking is flawed). You manage the coyotes on your place, I'm gonna kill every one I see.

David