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Rifle scope on a pellet gun #1926002 12/16/10 04:56 AM
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Can this be done? Has anyone done it?




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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Koenig] #1926034 12/16/10 05:10 AM
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It is not recomended, especially on a spring powered pellet gun.

The vibrations created by the spring are said to be tough on scopes.



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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: kmon11] #1926079 12/16/10 06:07 AM
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Buy the scopes that are made for pellet guns, as mentioned above tue vibrations will ruin a normal scope.



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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: BigPig] #1926097 12/16/10 06:48 AM
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As said above normal rifle scopes will be ruined in most cases because most air rifles have a reverse recoil. They make scopes specifically for them. I have a scope on my gamo and it is super accurate and I have put over 1000 pellets thru it


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Koenig] #1926207 12/16/10 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Koenig
Can this be done? Has anyone done it?


Yes it can, done all the time. You need close parallex focus capability and a tough scope. What rifle are you shooting and how much are you willing to spend?

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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Canazes9] #1926235 12/16/10 12:55 PM
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CrossPoint scopes are designed for pellet guns and are pretty nice for the money. You can pick one up at Walmart


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: BCJ] #1926564 12/16/10 03:02 PM
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I've never had a rifle scope fail me on an air rifle. I don't use junk either. I've got a Nikon prostaff 4x thats been zeroed for eight years.

If that reverse recoil theory were real then a scope on your centerfire could give out by simply riding around in your vehicle...Nonsense!


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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: LuckenbachTexas] #1927375 12/16/10 06:52 PM
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Riding around in a truck isnt quite the same lol


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: ChickenWilly] #1927473 12/16/10 07:23 PM
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ill be putting it on an RWS pellet gun. Its a break over type.




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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Koenig] #1927516 12/16/10 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Koenig
ill be putting it on an RWS pellet gun. Its a break over type.


Which rifle, how much you willing to spend? It makes a difference - some RWS (Diana) air rifles are known to destroy scopes, particularly the model 54.

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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Canazes9] #1927695 12/16/10 08:22 PM
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how is the vibrations worse than a rifle....i don't get it.



and a rifle riding around in between the seat of a truck is subject to almost continuous vibrations



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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: txtrophy85] #1928007 12/16/10 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
how is the vibrations worse than a rifle....i don't get it.



and a rifle riding around in between the seat of a truck is subject to almost continuous vibrations


Don't understand all of it, has to do w/ the way the piston drives the pellet out. Spring air guns don't use a large compressed air charge to propel the pellet out the end of the barrel. Their is a powerful spring that is attached to a piston. The spring/piston are cocked and then released when fired. The only air that is compressed is the little bit that the piston uses to push the pellet out the end of the barrel. When the piston reaches the end of the stroke it rebounds causing the reverse recoil.

With all due respect to Robert Beeman, a great salesman and more than any other the guy that brought european style airguns to America, the recoil of most spring guns is not particularly severe. Will it trash scopes designed for a rifle? Absolutely if your talking about the $30 variant that you might normally purchase at Walmart for a .22. Likewise the discount "big game" scope that can be purchased for about the same price.

Any decent name brand scope (Bushnell higher end stuff, Nikon, Leupold, Weaver, etc.) will hold up fine on most air rifles, however, most are parallexed for 100 yards. Precision counts w/ airgunning - you are dealing w/ a small fraction of the power of a .22 short, so having the parallex be off enough to make you miss your shot by 3/8" is a big deal. For that reason, airgunners tend to gravitate to scopes that can be parallexed down to 10 yards. A good example of this type of scope found on an airgun would be a Bushnell legend 5x15x40. Realitively inexpensive, held up well on most springer type airguns. The old Simmons 44mags were also well thought of.

When you start really trying to crank the power up in a springer style airgun, they start becoming exponentially more destructive. Guns like the Webley Patriot and RWS 48 & 52, weirauch 80 & 90 require something a bit more ruggedly built - in this category, the Bushnell elites are favorites - not because they are more rugged than comparable Nikons, Leupolds, etc - it's just that they are rugged AND have many models that will parallex down to 10yards.

Finally there are springer airguns like the Diana(RWS) 54 - it is a semi-recoiless design. It shoots like a dream, unfortunately, the recoiless design is achieved via a sliding sled that the barrel/receiver assembly rides on when the shot is fired. Pretty much any high end scope that is heavy will be trashed on this rifle - many owners use the Leupold 3-9x33 because the lighter weight seems to help the scopes live longer on this rifle.

HTH's, not really a springer expert, quit shooting them years ago, all the air rifles I have now are PCP's.

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Very well stated David... up
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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: txtrophy85] #1928302 12/16/10 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
how is the vibrations worse than a rifle....i don't get it.



and a rifle riding around in between the seat of a truck is subject to almost continuous vibrations
Shoot a high power springer and you will see the issue.



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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Tin Head] #1931176 12/17/10 09:15 PM
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A buddy of mine gave me a scope he had on his 30 06 I think it was a bushnell and after about 500 pellets or so the cross hairs went hay wire and were all squiggly


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: ChickenWilly] #1932190 12/18/10 03:22 AM
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thanks i might just op for a red dot.




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Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: Koenig] #1933020 12/18/10 03:25 PM
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Had one on a benjamin pump and it worked great.


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: glens] #1933335 12/18/10 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: glens
Had one on a benjamin pump and it worked great.


Benjamin is pneumatic (compressed air), rather than spring-pushed, and doesn't generate the same kind of movement (no perceivable recoil at all, as a matter of fact).


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: RonKaye] #1934473 12/19/10 03:48 AM
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I have a Leupold 2-7 x 40 on my RWS breakover and have never had a problem .have had gun and scope over 15 years now .



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Just joined this forum this morning. I do, however, frequent "Texas Fishing Forum". I had no idea until a couple of years ago, that airgunning had become so sophisticated and popular as it is. Certainly not new to gunning, I have owned many and still have my Daisy pump (circa 1959). I bought a .177 Beeman P1 springer summer before last and use a BSA Red Dot on it. I do know that many scope them and there is quite a lot of discussion about quickly destroying a scope on an air gun if it is not properly designed. Mrs Santa Claus has a new Weirhauch 80 wrapped up for me scoped with a Hawke 12x40 designed for an airgun. I'd certainly like to find air gunning enthusiasm in this area as I know full well its a great sport indoors and out.


Re: Rifle scope on a pellet gun [Re: captainchris] #1935081 12/19/10 04:02 PM
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Nothing like an airgun for a little trigger time when you want to shoot but do not have time for the range, plus they are just fun and ammo doesn't cost an arm and leg.



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