The person who has the lease has been raising the price last few years. Last year he raised it $100 and talked raising it another hundred next year. I decided to call the timber company and find out what the lease cost. It was $255 per person and the person who has the lease charged us $450 this year. We do not have big food plots everyone does their own. We have no other costs. What do the rest of you pay over actual cost. I was told that i was not welcome back on the lease after he found out i had exposed his scam. There is no club or voting. Any ideas on what i can do.

For $450 a year I would have kept my mouth shut. JMO.

Not Right , but still cheap

probably just move on

Sounds like you're out on that deal for stirring the pot.

i would love to pay 450. i guess its time to find a new place.

What he pays for the lease is not everyones business. If he gets it for a dollar a person and wants to charge $1000 that is his business. Sounds like he is getting a heck of a deal on hunting property and @ $450 so were you.

All along he said it just covered lease cost. Then he left his job and then price edged up. Used to be a Hunt club then turned into a dicktatership. Not gonna miss it. Moving on. Timber Co says not supposed to sub-lease it. Sounds like he is.

I'm with you. A hunting lease is something that should be shared equally between it's members. I've been on several leases in the past that where the land was owned by timber companies, and EVERYTHING was done over the table, not under it.

If the guy isn't pocketing the difference, you're probably paying more to support others on the lease who pay little or nothing. And the timber companies often don't care because they're getting their money. Personally, I would rather sit home on weekends and spend more time with the family, than to support such unethical behavior.

This kind of thing happens more often than you think. And in most cases, the ones getting the free ride are naturally the ones who don't see a problem with it.

If you decide to leave or get thrown off for speaking up, I would definitely let the contact person at the timber company know why. He/she may carry the same ethics as you and me.

I pay $800, even though $450 is cheep it aint right that he is doing that. I saw either tell everyone and get that guy off or go find another place.

which timber co?

the ones in our area are stair stepping the prices to get to their desired rate of between $10-12/acre depending on the county. With that bottom line rate usually comes and additional $.25-1.00/acre insurance, depending on how serious the timberco is about it. Then you can also tack on fees to have in the lease account should you have the burden of minor roadwork, general maintenance fees, etc.

I'd go back and post signs all over that lease "welcome to the BrokeBack Mountain Hunting Club"

Snider timber company in Marshall Harrison county.

Id call up the timber company and out bid his sorry but. I think you should easily be able to lease out all the other sposts.
I just got of of a lease that we have been on since 1990, 20 years on that lease, the initial rate was 350 back in 90 and it was still 350 the last year. Lease prices like that are few and far inbetween. For most folks they only exist if you have been hunting it for a long time.

matt

I would rat his sorry arse out to them. Then I would put in my own bid for next year and run his sorry arse off. Then put together a group for your own hunt club. And I wouldn't leave till the season is over if you are paid in full for this season!!!

I agree

Although everyone "should" pay equally in all cases it is not like that.

ditto. What you were paying wasn't a "lease," it was trespass fee, very common in Texas. If you didn't sign a contract you weren't sub-leasing, and you have no leverage on the "not supposed to sub-lease" thing. Shoulda' paid your dues and kept your mouth shut. You blow it for the rest of the hunters paying $450 on timber land and you'll never have a round tire on your truck again. I know boys in East Texas that'd drive a thousand miles just to flatten your tire after blowing that deal.

I would have to say that IMO it makes no difference what everybody else including the lease manager pays. You just decide for yourself if you are willing to pay the amount it's offered to you for. I am on one lease that the lease manager pays nothing, all the other members pay the lease. That's his "fee" for finding the lease and dealing with the landowner. I never thought twice about that. The lease is well worth what I pay so who cares? On my lease down south I suspect that the lease manager does the same thing but I have never asked because I just don't care.

i agree with bowslayer just pay if you want and dont worry bout nobody else.

Not worried about the others on the lease . If they don't have the courage to confront the liar hope he loses the lease and maybe an honest person will get the lease. People on this forum have different financial situations than others. I will always fight for what is right no matter the consequences. Was a time when he would not have a round tire but then i became a Christian and a Mason.I will forgive him but it ain't gonna be easy.

It shouldn't matter what everyone else if paying if you get on a lease you ask how much and if you agree to the amount that's what you pay, and fair or not, nobody has forced you to get on the lease.

If you go by what the going rate is for the area you should know if you are getting taken so it's your choice.

Someone will always pay the asking price! It may not be you, but someone will pay it!

I think I would call it free enterprise and making a profit. What I thought was the great American way.

It started as a club of like minded people then turned to what is is now. Everyone thought we were just paying the lease cost. That was what we were told. I have heard enough of both sides of this. Thanks for your thoughts. To each his own.

It appears we have some used car salesmen in the mix.

A hunting lease is supposed to a place where men share good times and memories, rather than something that creates a profit for some "middle man".

It's good to know there are still guys out there who take pride in keeping everything above the table. And how much more so when the focus is creating life-long friendships, rather than finding new "customers".

Just another reason why finding a "good" lease is so difficult. With so many out to make money off the sport, it can take a lot of time and effort to find an opening with a group of guys who hunt only for the "love of the game".

we all pay the same on my lease. no secrets just friends and family having a great time and making some awesome memories!!! the way it should be.