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another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:36 PM
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situation:
you are very much against high fences. You are enjoying a hunt on a ranch in the hill country that is standard for the area 4ft net wire bottom/two strand on top.
sitting in the blind, a nice blackbuck or sheep walks out.
do you take the shot?
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:40 PM
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I didn't...but I wasn't sure I could shoot the blackbuck until I got back to camp. They weren't aware they had one on their place.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:43 PM
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Not sure I understand the question as it relates to the subject line.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:45 PM
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Think what he is saying is that sheep and blackbuck won't jump a fence.
although I have seen blackbuck jump into a feed pen before. So is that the only place they will jump a fence is to get to feed.
Am I correct...
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:47 PM
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:48 PM
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Not sure I understand the question as it relates to the subject line. blackbuck don't jump fences... point he is making is what really determines what is escape proof per B/C. I have seen pronghorns run around in a circle in a 640 acre trap in Oklahoma looking for a hole to crawl though, although some will jump the cattle fence 99 percent will not. I have yet to see a fence in TX that will keep all deer in or out
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:51 PM
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corsican, mouflon or texas dall. aoudad knows no boundries
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 05:55 PM
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Not sure I understand the question as it relates to the subject line. blackbuck don't jump fences... point he is making is what really determines what is escape proof per B/C. I have seen pronghorns run around in a circle in a 640 acre trap in Oklahoma looking for a hole to crawl though, although some will jump the cattle fence 99 percent will not. I have yet to see a fence in TX that will keep all deer in or out this is the point! I've yet to see a blackbuck jump a 4 foot fence. seen them go under them, but not over. Never seen a sheep jump a fence, ever. there maybe a few that will, but they are the exception to the rule, just like a whitetail that will jump a high fence. Wonder how someone would feel about taking a blackbuck or corsican sheep behind a standard low fence, when in all reality.....they arn't going to jump the low fence. they are more or less "enclosed"
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:07 PM
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this was the one I saw...on a 600 acre hill country place with the fencing like you described. They didn't know he was there and I didn't know squat about them (and was there to shoot an axis they wanted gone), but I let him walk and the property owner went out the next day to find him and never could get on him. So far and over a year later, I'm the only person that has seen him.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:11 PM
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corsican, mouflon or texas dall. aoudad knows no boundries But then, I'm not scared of high fences....
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:12 PM
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this was the one I saw...on a 600 acre hill country place with the fencing like you described. They didn't know he was there and I didn't know squat about them (and was there to shoot an axis they wanted gone), but I let him walk and the property owner went out the next day to find him and never could get on him. So far and over a year later, I'm the only person that has seen him. got out same way he got in probely water gap or hog hole in the wire
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:22 PM
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possibly got through a hog hole.. I rode the fences and saw a cpl spots were hogs were coming under...straight rock with a little divot maybe 3" deep. Other than that, no holes or gaps in the fence.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:24 PM
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:36 PM
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 06:47 PM
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are we all forgetting water gap fences? if you have streams or canyon they are going to wash out that fence and have an easy path for anything to move between ranches.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:10 PM
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did yall know that if u shine a spotlight on a deer at night, as long as the light is on em, they wont jump the fence..... i thought it was interesting.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:17 PM
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Maybe there is a reason that Blackbucks aren't considered "game animals."
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:22 PM
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Yes I do shoot!
I guess I should have said yes if I have permission. I said yes because on our place it would be ok.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:22 PM
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did yall know that if u shine a spotlight on a deer at night, as long as the light is on em, they wont jump the fence..... i thought it was interesting. serious?
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:28 PM
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Maybe there is a reason that Blackbucks aren't considered "game animals."
They are not considered "game animals" by the TPWD only because they are not native to the state.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:29 PM
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:36 PM
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Not sure I understand the question as it relates to the subject line. blackbuck don't jump fences... point he is making is what really determines what is escape proof per B/C. I have seen pronghorns run around in a circle in a 640 acre trap in Oklahoma looking for a hole to crawl though, although some will jump the cattle fence 99 percent will not. I have yet to see a fence in TX that will keep all deer in or out I have seen blackbuck jump LF fences..it takes them a few tries but if pressured into a corner they will jump and jump it well. They prefer to go thru a gate or under a fence thru a hole but they will jump.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:38 PM
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did yall know that if u shine a spotlight on a deer at night, as long as the light is on em, they wont jump the fence..... i thought it was interesting. serious? ya, idk why.... i think the fence creates an illusion for em....
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:39 PM
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I was wondering about them jumping b/c my last trip through College Station I saw some out in the middle of a field and they just had a 4' fence. Struck me as odd b/c you just don't see a lot of that out in that area from any public roads.
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Re: another anti-high fence scenario
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10/05/10 07:43 PM
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One place I hunt is the most improved ranch I've ever seen, the fences are perfect, everything is maintained at all times, and it is low fenced. I've seen black bucks in the middle of that property. In order to get to the pasture where I saw them, they had to get through at least two interior fences.
So, if they don't jump fences, how did they get there? Crawl on their belly through a low spot?
I don't know a thing about black bucks, so I'm just asking because I really don't know. We've never shot one, but have seen them on occasion. They had gotten into an alfalfa field that none of the cattle could get into.
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