Some people like the nanny state. Makes me wonder if it just other people that they want the government to control, or if they feel the need to be controlled also.

True, but I don't think it is unreasonable to 'nanny' a person who can't take care of himself. Like you said, this isn't a perfect world where everyone can get what they want. We can only imagine, as Lennon put it.

Now, if the Ireland's take this to court and a jury finds him competent then I have no problem with him carrying guns. In order to do so he however needs to get out of his wife's guardianship. Based on the article, our court system did not initiate the process, they did VOLUNTARILY! Now I don't know if they did so to get more money from the government but whatever the reason is, I believe the end result is entirely their own doing.

Other people of course. Like illegal immigrants...

I forgot, you don't want governments help, you have guns to deal with that problem. I hope yours are bigger than theirs.

If a person is judged legally "incompetent" that's fairly serious, it means a psychiatrist evaluated the person and found that that person lacks decision-making ability. It means that the recommendation ended up in usually Family court, and the petition (usually brought by a hospital, a city or county jurisdiction) petitioned for it and it was ruled on by a judge. The individual who lacks capacity has a poor ability to judge right from wrong in a chronic way. "Capacity" is a diagnostic word, a close relative to "impaired judgement". People diagnosed with PTSD are NOT automatically declared incompetent or deemed to have impaired judgement. To be incompetent you must also meet the criteria of "lacking insight" into your mental illness and be "unwilling, inconsistent or be non-compliant" with treatment recommendations such as medication or therapy and "likely to suffer harm" unless someone steps in in a decision-making capacity. I can guarantee you that its a fairly high standard to meet, very few people in this country are deemed incompetent, its stripping a person's civil rights to a degree and contrary to what you may believe, psychiatrists do not like to make that recommendation hastily. There has to be a history of real self harm, harm to others or self neglect. Remember, a court decides competency. The pyschiatrist only assesses for capacity. I know these things because I worked with people who were adjudicated mentally incompetent for 7 years and I can tell you there are people in this society walking around who are a risk to themselves and others. Sorry it happened to the fella though. Its not a happy thing.

what does it say on there driver lic. does it come back to that PTSD? I think that should be something private because if you didn't even have a gun the law might treat you like a metal person.

What part of shall not be infringed do you not get? I don't think I can make it any easier for you to understand. Maybe you should look up the definition of infringe, either that or you don't give a rats *** about the constitution.

You are right about one thing, I don't want the governments help with anything, let me deal with things my way. Never have used the governments help in my life, it is called being able to take care of myself, maybe you should give it a try.

"a psychiatrist"

Thats more skoolin and credibility than most folks on here who are mouthin off.

I see folks everyday who tote $2,000 AR-15's who ain't got a tooth in their head, ain't gradutated from high skool, but can quote the hell outta the U.S. and Texas Constitutions.

My rhetorical question will always be...If you don't like it, whatcha gonna do about it? NUTHIN!

While I have an opinion on this, I'll reserve that...

I will say this..... If you are so worried about this governmetn infringement, how in the world can you support Antler restrictions?

I call foul that's a different debate for another thread