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 I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 10:08 AM
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viatordp
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So my grandpa owns a piece of property thats about 5 miles away from our deer lease and he had it clear cut about 4 yrs ago i hunted the property the last time about 2 years ago cause i couldnt get all the briars and stuff tamed down enough to hunt (typicall east texas situation)well i decided to go check out what it looked like last weekend and a guy down the road evidentally decided to get it all tamed with his tractor and made it into a really nice hunting area. my dilema is should i go ahead and tell him before season that im gunna hunt it and take the chance of him tearin everything up or wait till opening day and suprise him? (this guy lives less than 100yds from the entrance of the property)
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: viatordp]
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04/29/10 10:45 AM
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its your grandpas land . justtell the guy you will be hunting it this year and thanks for cleaning it up for you !!
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 11:14 AM
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Go and tell em, dont wait.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: Hoytman]
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04/29/10 11:34 AM
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Don't wait man! All that will do is piss him off even more and more than likely, he'll do his BEST to make sure your hunting is ruined. Heck, see if your Gramps wants to lease him rights? He pays and you don't! Everybody's happy!! That's what I'd do.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 11:56 AM
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Be straight up with him. I hate late notifiction of anything.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 11:56 AM
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Need to be up front with the guy. Not his land so he really has no rights to it without permission.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: viatordp]
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04/29/10 01:05 PM
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Did this guy just do it out of the goodness of his heart or with permission from someone for something in return?
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 01:10 PM
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Gran pa might surprize you, with his thinking,Slight difference in couldnt and did. And rewards for same.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 01:15 PM
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I'd definitely tell him now. Do you have any reason to believe he thinks he's going to be hunting it? Maybe he had a good reason for wanting the area cleaned up?
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 01:40 PM
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You need to talk with gramps and get more info as to why this guy did the work. That being said I would be up front with the guy now. If he has some deal worked that you don't know about, and you show up on opening day, well....... you may be in the wrong place and that would kill day one for you. Don't take a chance on ruining one of the best days of the year for yourself or the neighbor.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: CRF4JEFF]
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04/29/10 02:07 PM
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there's no good reason NOT to tell him. If he's got the right to hunt there (from your grandpa) then you need to know that. Maybe you can work something out so you can BOTH hunt it.
If he's not planning to hunt it, then no harm done, and if he doesn't have permission, and is planning to hunt it anyway, you need to put the breaks on that fast like.
Just showing up on day 1 is, as far as i can see, the worst way to handle it. Probably the most dangerous too... surprising a man who's very likely to have a gun and who is looking for something to kill sounds a bit unsafe.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 09:56 PM
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To answer all yall's questions i talked to gramps and no this guy doesnt have any rights to hunt there or anything and i know he is planning on hunting cause he took the POS feeder we had up and threw it in the woods and but his feeder up and also fixed up the blind that we had up. I know he plans on hunting it but now that all this work is done i think im going to i just dont know what way to go about it cause if i go ahead and talk to him ill bet everything i own he will mess everything up out there as in rut it all up pull down the blind etc.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 10:06 PM
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time to call the Game Warden and/or the county sheriff for trespassing.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: JJH]
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04/29/10 10:11 PM
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Call the game warden as soon as you read this, ask him to meet you there. Show him the things you just told us.
Put up No trespassing signs in several locations where clearly visible from the road, and inform the "gentleman" that you are aware of his trepassing, and that you and the game warden would appreciate it if he stayed on his own property in the future.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 10:24 PM
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Do this:
Start by thanking him for doing all the work and offer to buy him dinner or a beer or something. Once you've done that, say something to the effect of, "I noticed that you've put some of your gear out there, and I feel bad about this, but that's my property and I'm going to be hunting on it. If you would have asked me, I'd have told you not to bother clearing it because I was going to do it later this summer."
He's going to be mad. Try to make him feel like he ended up getting something for his effort, as he does deserve a little something for his time.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/29/10 10:38 PM
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what he deserves is a kick in the ARSE (see Orn, i remembered) for tresspassing on someone elses land.
Maybe it's just me, but I was raised knowing that there's just some things you do NOT do. Top of that list is something to do with your best friends sister, but a step below that was DON'T HUNT ON ANOTHER MAN'S LAND WITHOUT PERMISSION.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 12:27 AM
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 01:28 AM
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Be straight up and tell him now
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: viatordp]
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04/30/10 02:09 PM
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This could get ugly. If it's Grandpa's land, he needs to be doing the talking & the law needs to be notified. It's a pretty ballsy move to start working someone else's land without permission & likely isn't going to just end with an "I'm hunting here now, so stay off.."
The law can help remind this guy of private property rules and hopefully keep him from tearing it up. Expect a lively confrontation, so don't just expect the guy to say, "Oops, sorry" & walk away. Be prepared & handle it ASAP.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 02:30 PM
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You need to talk with granpda before anyone calls the law to make sure the guy didn't have permission, after i found out what was going on from grandpa I would talk to the guy as soon as possible.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 02:48 PM
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KK66 has the best advice.
I would get both sides. If grandpa is getting up in years he may have done some horse trading and has forgotten.Then I would have BOTH present and have a true discussion.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 03:12 PM
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I'll probably get hammered for this, but.
Even though it sounds like the neighbor trespassed and intended to continue to trespass (hunt).
I would explain the situation to him as nicely as possible and ask him to remove his stuff. After he gave his word he'd stay off the place offer to pay a reasonable fee for what work he's done. If the conversation doesn't go well or he continues to trespass then get the GW and sheriff involved.
No matter who is right or wrong there is absolutely nothing worse than sharing a fence line with a unpleasant or pissed off neighbor.
Depending on what kinda guy he is it may get even worse if you get the law involved.
The LEO's can't watch your place 24/7, unless you live on it you have to rely on your neighbors. Even though he appears to be in the wrong I wouldn't be to quick to make him an enemy.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 03:16 PM
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That sounds like pretty good advice to me. Would really be interesting to know what the guy was thinking when he did all that work on someone else's property.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
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04/30/10 03:24 PM
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I'll probably get hammered for this, but.
Even though it sounds like the neighbor trespassed and intended to continue to trespass (hunt).
I would explain the situation to him as nicely as possible and ask him to remove his stuff. After he gave his word he'd stay off the place offer to pay a reasonable fee for what work he's done. If the conversation doesn't go well or he continues to trespass then get the GW and sheriff involved.
No matter who is right or wrong there is absolutely nothing worse than sharing a fence line with a unpleasant or pissed off neighbor.
Depending on what kinda guy he is it may get even worse if you get the law involved.
The LEO's can't watch your place 24/7, unless you live on it you have to rely on your neighbors. Even though he appears to be in the wrong I wouldn't be to quick to make him an enemy.
I like this advice. Yeah, you could just be a jerk and tell the guy to shove off, but then you'd be looking over your shoulder constantly on the place.
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Re: I have a dilema! (sorda long)
[Re: Justin T]
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04/30/10 04:48 PM
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This. Plus keep Gpa in the loop. I'll probably get hammered for this, but.
Even though it sounds like the neighbor trespassed and intended to continue to trespass (hunt).
I would explain the situation to him as nicely as possible and ask him to remove his stuff. After he gave his word he'd stay off the place offer to pay a reasonable fee for what work he's done. If the conversation doesn't go well or he continues to trespass then get the GW and sheriff involved.
No matter who is right or wrong there is absolutely nothing worse than sharing a fence line with a unpleasant or pissed off neighbor.
Depending on what kinda guy he is it may get even worse if you get the law involved.
The LEO's can't watch your place 24/7, unless you live on it you have to rely on your neighbors. Even though he appears to be in the wrong I wouldn't be to quick to make him an enemy.
I like this advice. Yeah, you could just be a jerk and tell the guy to shove off, but then you'd be looking over your shoulder constantly on the place.
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