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ATV or Tractor???
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01/12/07 12:55 PM
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Our family recently purchased a small place in Brown County. There are a couple of 2-3 acre food plots already in place that I plan to keep planted year round. I am trying to decide if I want to buy a tractor or an ATV type thing (Gator, Mule, etc.). Does anyone have any experience discing and other light farming type duties using an ATV? Seems like it would be really hard on them, but it would sure be more versatile (and fun) than a tractor!?!?!?
By the way! I'm really glad I found this forum. Forgive me if I go a little crazy with posts in the beginning. I could talk about this stuff all day, everyday!
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ttuhunter]
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01/12/07 02:03 PM
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Dave Davidson
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I have both. Sooner or later you will also. Rural properties have an insatiable appetite for cash.
Have you thought about buying the toy and hiring a neighbor to do the food plots? Two 4 wheelers can almost be had, I believe, for the price of the big boys like the mules and gators.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ttuhunter]
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01/12/07 02:31 PM
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A 3 acre food plot is big for a ATV. Really there is no comparison to a tractor. Even a small tractor would serve you purpose much better than a ATV. Buy both!!
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: Huntmaster]
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01/12/07 02:49 PM
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Tractor, you can buy an older model for a reasonable amount $2/3000 just becareful that you don't get attached to an older model and find yourself restoring it. That can cost you as much as the the place you want to plow.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: dogcatcher]
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01/12/07 03:06 PM
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I'm leaning toward a tractor because honestly I don't need an ATV (although it would be fun). We only have 87 acres and it's not a big deal to walk anywhere on the place. I can always use the truck for hauling etc. With that said, I'm far from being a farmer and don't know much about tractors. Is a 20 or 30 HP big enough? All I ever plan to do is a little disking and planting. Soil is sandy loam so its not like I'm working with the concrete/clay @&$* that I have at the house.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ttuhunter]
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01/12/07 03:40 PM
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Go with the HP--get as much as you can afford. 30 seems good. Plant a 5 acre food plot in wheat in September and you'll have deer and doves all over you.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: Huntmaster]
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01/12/07 04:53 PM
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It would be great to have both! I have an ATV and use it for some farm work, especially mowing with my Swisher mower. It does a really good job with the mower. I also have a disc, but it is a little slow to use even with my 800cc ATV. I have 3 food plots, but I do hire someone with a "real" tractor to do the discing on them. A tractor does a much better and quicker job than an ATV, but I still love my ATV for everything else!! I would really like to have my own tractor too, but can't afford it at this time.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: Huntmaster]
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01/12/07 05:02 PM
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One other piece of advice, get a front end loader on that tractor. You may say you don't have a need for it, but once you have one, you'll wonder how you ever got along without one!
IMHO, A tractor with a front end loader is the most useful piece of equipment you can have on any size property.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ralph]
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01/12/07 05:48 PM
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BUY AN OLD TRACTOR... WE BOUGHT ONE LAST YEAR AND SPEND SO MUCH TIME WORKING ON THE DA&N THAT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT A FOOD PLOT! I GUESS THE BEST THING I CAN SAY ABOUT A FORD 8N TRACTOR IS THAT THEY ARE PRETTY EASY TO WORK ON...
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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01/12/07 07:51 PM
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One other piece of advice, get a front end loader on that tractor. You may say you don't have a need for it, but once you have one, you'll wonder how you ever got along without one!
IMHO, A tractor with a front end loader is the most useful piece of equipment you can have on any size property.
I second this piece of advise
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: SaginawHunter]
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01/13/07 01:15 AM
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Ralph & Saginaw are correct, get a tractor with a front end loader. My dad told everyone that when I moved away from home, he got a front end loader to take my place. Well my son is fixing to be gone and my dad just passed away, so I now have my dad's front end loader. As for HP, get as much as you can afford, but in the 20 - 35 HP, get a 4wd. It makes a big difference. The tractor I have is a Kubota 35hp 4wd with a loader. You might check some of the tractor dealers, they should be putting some spring specials on and you can get financing pretty easy if the credit is good. Watch those specials, sometimes the dealer will be willing to change the equipment that comes in the deal. Most are tractor, box blade and bush hog sometimes a trailer included. If I can be of help, just give me a shout.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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01/13/07 11:22 AM
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Dave Davidson
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I finally got a tractor with a loader about 6 years ago. Can't really imagine what I did before I got it. It is a 39 HP JD that I bought new. I decided to go with new because I got tired of having something to work on instead of work with. Of course, I kept the Ford 8N. A guy really needs a chisel, disc and box blade.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: Dave Davidson]
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01/13/07 02:06 PM
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Hands down, TRACTOR
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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01/13/07 03:44 PM
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Anything over a ac. get a tractor. Not worth tearing up your ATV.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: HOF]
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01/14/07 01:49 PM
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Hands down, TRACTOR
I second that. And get a front end loader too. Mininmum 50 HP. Long Agripower makes a reasonably priced tractor. Even with 87 acres your going to want to do some brush hoggin, discing, tree removal, road grading, hole fillin etc... Rural property is a sink hole for cash and the work is never done. That being said. Are you going to lease to someone for grazing? To avoid some of the hassles it might make sense to pay someone else to do the planting etc...
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ttuhunter]
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01/14/07 08:04 PM
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Actually we're going to switch to a wildlife exemption. I would rather not have cattle on the place. Just don't want to fool with my own cattle and don't really want other folks out there when I'm not around. I've actually got a couple of friends of friends that are pretty close that have tractors. Maybe I can cut a deal until I can swing my own. Thanks to everyone for the input. Sounds like an ATV will not hold up for the kind of work I need to do!
'The true Soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ralph]
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01/15/07 09:28 AM
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One other piece of advice, get a front end loader on that tractor. You may say you don't have a need for it, but once you have one, you'll wonder how you ever got along without one!
IMHO, A tractor with a front end loader is the most useful piece of equipment you can have on any size property.
Amen on that!!!!
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: fourtrax]
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01/16/07 08:44 PM
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I only have 10 acres but I picked up a 40HP Massey for 4K. Those tractors are pretty much indestructable. You may also check Craigslist.com for one cheap. it's where I found mine. Just trying to help out
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: forever_frost]
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02/02/07 05:03 AM
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I would think the atv stuff you would have to live up north. Dont know about you but most of texas is hard as a rock most of the time. Even the sandy soils seam to be to hard for a atv. i just dont see enough wait to break much ground I could be wrong my tractor was in the 120 horse range so we cut through what we wanted to
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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02/03/07 01:21 AM
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tractor was in the 120 horse range so we cut through what we wanted to
Was it gas? Most of the guys here that are talking 30 and 40 horse size are talking diesel and with tractor gearing that can be alot, lots more hind end for pulling and breaking ground vs a gas. Seems like everybody here has had thier share of 8 and 9n fords, they just never die
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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02/05/07 11:26 PM
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snaken
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Get a good used tractor. Older models you can work on yourself. All the attachments to buy later may help you out as well. Another plus is that if you live just down the old FM road to town, you can take that tractor in for supplies and the locals will look the other way. I know, against the law and all, but can be a fun trip for the kids.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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02/06/07 08:28 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the input! Does anyone have any experience with any of the Asian built tractors i.e. Yanmar, etc.? There is a guy out of Belton that sells remanufactured Japanese and Chinese tractors pretty resonably. Appears to be a pretty quality outfit and his tractors look good but was wondering if anyone had used them. http://tractorcountry.com/
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: ttuhunter]
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02/06/07 11:01 PM
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Dave Davidson
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I've seen good and bad Asians but I've never seen a good Eastern European. Of course, I haven't seen them all. Go to TractorByNet and check.
PERSONALLY, I wouldn't do it. Check around for an older model Ford 8 or 9N. It will do just about what you want to get done. Of course, over time, you will find more things to do and someday you will wind up dropping some serious cash on a good tractor.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
[Re: Dave Davidson]
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02/11/07 04:53 PM
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I've seen good and bad Asians but I've never seen a good Eastern European. Of course, I haven't seen them all. Go to TractorByNet and check.
We bought a Zetor tractor, which is made in the Czech Republic, had it now for 5 years and never had any trouble with it. It's in the 60 hp range and has plenty for everything we've done. Just wish it was a 4wd.
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Re: ATV or Tractor???
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02/25/07 05:32 AM
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I personally own a 35hp Case Diesel, 4wd. It does all we need. We are on 30 acres. Brush hog, 6' drag disc, 5' box blade.. Plenty of power for all we need. I would personally stay away from the older Asian tractors. Many friends have bought them and they wind up sitting unused while they wait for replacement parts, service, etc.. jmo
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