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Property line?? #1146262 01/03/10 09:16 PM
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My dad and I are hunting a small property (13 acres) and wanted to know the rules for placing a feeder or blind on a property line. Is there a regulation on distance from the fence line etc.? Thanks for the help.


Re: Property line?? [Re: dlrz71] #1146279 01/03/10 09:19 PM
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If your stand is on YOUR property or property you lease then there is nothing anyone can do about it! If your bullet crosses a property line though then its a crime!


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I would not put either on the property line. I would set up in the middle out of sight. Place either on or near the line and you might find yourself surrounded by a 10' fence in short order.



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Exactly. There are no legalities involving distances from feeders or stands from the fence. It's more customs and courtesy. It will vary for the type of country you are in, but a couple hundred yards is polite, and IMO safer.


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if you have to put one or the other on the fence, put the stand there and the feeder towards the middle of your property. Make sure the side of your stand that faces the fence doesn't have a window.

2 hunters on 13 acres is a little tight...

Our neighbors are similar, but their feeders are on the fence. Hornslayer is correct. We just bought the equipment (Belltec post hole digger & pneumatic t-post driver) to high fence a portion of the property. If your neighbor has the time and money, and you piss them off enough, you could be approached and given 2 options:
1. Sell to us at market value
2. Get high fenced out, making your hunting worthless.





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Thanks for the info guys. The property belongs to a co-worker of my dads and the 13 acres is on the corner of 2 roads so the high fenced in is not a worry. The place is pretty heavily wooded and there is already and worn down blind on the fence line that needs some help but was wandering the regulations for next year as that would be the best place to place a feeder and stand. Thanks again.


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For such a small parcel, it sounds like you might be in East Texas. I would advise planting a food plot - or two - a perinial in the spring and an annual in the fall - and inviting your dad's co-worker to hunt on it.

That would be a good solution that would help everyone out.



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Re: Property line?? [Re: MELackey] #1147831 01/04/10 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: MELackey

2 hunters on 13 acres is a little tight...

Our neighbors are similar, but their feeders are on the fence. Hornslayer is correct. We just bought the equipment (Belltec post hole digger & pneumatic t-post driver) to high fence a portion of the property. If your neighbor has the time and money, and you piss them off enough, you could be approached and given 2 options:
1. Sell to us at market value
2. Get high fenced out, making your hunting worthless.

I agree that 13 acres is close quarters for two hunters - there isn't much room to set feeders and blinds up anyway. But unless they are a-holes, isn't it a little bit chicken chit of you to high-fence them in/out from your neighbors just becuase they don't have a 500 acre spread?


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On that size property I would go bow only. Your shots are likely going to cross the property line.


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Use a blind stand and shoot towards the middle of your property and you will be shooting towards the ground.


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Originally Posted By: fowlplayr


I agree that 13 acres is close quarters for two hunters - there isn't much room to set feeders and blinds up anyway. But unless they are a-holes, isn't it a little bit chicken chit of you to high-fence them in/out from your neighbors just becuase they don't have a 500 acre spread?


our neighbor has 4 hunters on a similar sized tract(20 acres at the MOST). Their feeders are on the fence with the stands back no more than 50 yards facing the fence, every dang one of their stands is backed up to a bush or tree, meaning their only shots are towards our place. The fence bordering them is pretty old, but it's funny that other than the areas close to their feeders, it is still in usable shape. The bottom wires near their feeders are all mysteriously missing or broken, and for whatever reasons, repairs never seem to hold. The fence seems to match what surrounds the rest of their property, so I guess it must technically be "their" fence. Most of our fencing is probably less than 20 yrs old, some newer than that, so that leads me to believe that is it definitely "their" fence and we have no claim to complain to them about cutting wires.

We bust our butts on management, and understand that with low fences you have no claims to deer, but we do have it in our power to sort of help make sure that we get a little more benefit than the others from the work we do.

We're not going to fence them out, as their property is triangular shaped and we only border the long side. BUT, we can fence where we join them, plus 3-400 yards each direction to make it harder for the deer to cross from our place to theirs, and also to make sure that the deer from their side quit "jumping the fence after they are shot."





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Originally Posted By: muddslinger_lp
Use a blind stand and shoot towards the middle of your property and you will be shooting towards the ground.


Ever see what happens to a bullet that hits the ground at a shallow angle?


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Originally Posted By: Justin T
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Use a blind stand and shoot towards the middle of your property and you will be shooting towards the ground.


Ever see what happens to a bullet that hits the ground at a shallow angle?


Since we are hunting why not just hit the deer???? I know we all miss but come on guys. I am just asking about the property line and rules regarding it. Thanks for all the help for those of you who posted it. This is not a thread about hunting small land and trying to take game off of other peoples land or shooting across fence lines.


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Okay, have fun being irresponsible. We'll probably have a post next week about the guy that got shot at because his neighbor hunts 10 acres of land.


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Originally Posted By: Justin T
Okay, have fun being irresponsible. We'll probably have a post next week about the guy that got shot at because his neighbor hunts 10 acres of land.


Question, where in anything that I have said reflect that I am being irresponsible? I am hunting a small property, sorry I can't afford an expensive lease or ranch. I think I am being very responsible and ethical in trying not to place my hunting equipment too close to a property line and affect the surrounded land and its users. I am not trying to shoot anything on anyone elses land. I hunt with a 30-30 which is a brush gun and I would consideer this area very BRUSHY. Thanks for your input now move on to more important things please.


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sorry I came across a little harsh. Certainly didn't mean to imply you were doing anything wrong, just suggesting how you might place your stand so as to keep the peace with the neighbors. Another thought would be to put the stand in the corner of your land, then you only really have 2 directions to worry about and can sort of maximize your huntable area.

Many of our surrounding landowners have as much if not more land than we do. We have a little over 500 acres. 2 of the immediate neighbors have less than 20 acres. One lives there and doesn't seem to hunt. The other has 4 hunters like I said earlier. No one cares or looks down on this guy for the small number of acres he has. You can only do what you can do. The complaint is that he has more hunters on his <20 acre tract than we do on a 500 acre tract, AND the way he sets it up, he is basically hunting our land more than he hunts his own. Who knows, maybe he is only killign on his property and his bullets never cross our fence and he never tracks game on our side. It looks enough like it to piss us off, so we're taking steps to make ourselves happier with the situation.

If I had 13 acres of my own that wasn't family land, I'd hunt the hell out of it and be happy as a lark doing it. I wish you guys the best, and hope you kill the big one.





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Originally Posted By: Justin T
On that size property I would go bow only. Your shots are likely going to cross the property line.


13 acres is more than enough land to keep a bullet on ur property.... i have a shooting range at my parents and it is only 6.5 acres...... i also have a lil place that is 17acres with plenty of room to deer hunt on. 13 acres is a lot more than what u think.


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No worries. My replies were in reference to Mr JustinT. I understand where you guys are coming from on your land as well which is the reasoning behind my question. I am only trying to do what's right and not be a burden basically to anyone and their property.


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You can put any where you want legaly but more (*&*&(& gets started over fence hunting than anything. Your neighbors will not like it and you also lose control of you hunting experience. If neighbor decides to work on something close to the line that day you are SOL. We have a neighbor with one right on the fence and next year we are placing blind on our side to hunt. He pays for corn we shoot deer. What a deal.


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Originally Posted By: dlrz71
No worries. My replies were in reference to Mr JustinT. I understand where you guys are coming from on your land as well which is the reasoning behind my question. I am only trying to do what's right and not be a burden basically to anyone and their property.


So you got mad at me for suggesting that it was possible for a bullet to ricochet off the ground and go onto your neighbors property? I don't know what you are doing, but 13 acres is not very much property. Where I hunt we have about 150-200 acres per hunter, and it is pretty cramped, and we do have to think about our stand positioning on that much property. Think of how it is on 13 acres. I don't know the situation, but come on, don't act like a bullet can't leave 13 acres pretty easily.


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On that size property I would go bow only. Your shots are likely going to cross the property line.


13 acres is more than enough land to keep a bullet on ur property.... i have a shooting range at my parents and it is only 6.5 acres...... i also have a lil place that is 17acres with plenty of room to deer hunt on. 13 acres is a lot more than what u think.


Yeah, plenty of room for a range, but when I deer hunt, the deer come out at 360 degrees, and never stop right where you intend for them to. You just need to be very careful on a place that small. You don't know where your neighbors might be at any time.


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just because a deer steps out in a certain spot doesnt mean u have to shoot.....there is absolutely no reason to limit urself to bow hunting on a thirteen acre place.


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Originally Posted By: Brandon A
just because a deer steps out in a certain spot doesnt mean u have to shoot.....there is absolutely no reason to limit urself to bow hunting on a thirteen acre place.


It can be. But when someone says "why not just hit the deer" in response to a bullet going into someone else's property, it just comes across as irresponsible, and I'm glad I don't hunt next to someone with that attitude. Experienced hunters miss deer all the time. A 30-30 is well above 2000fps, so that leaves 13 acres really quickly. I would only hunt 13 acres with a gun if I had a large berm in any direction I could be shooting. Otherwise, bow only.


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You must not read my whole comments and if you are going to quote me then quote the whole thing not just what makes you sound better. If you read the whole thing I did state that we miss from time to time. Also, you do not know the situation or the location of the blinds or the stands or anything else I am doing. You could just as easily hit someone on your 200 plus acres of land as the 13 I am hunting on. I am not someone that is just going to shoot because I see movement or a deer. I make sure what is beyond the target as best I can. You can call me irresponsible all you want but for you to judge someone because of the size of place they hunt is stupid on your part.


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Thank God I'm not your neighbor. You sound pretty lackadaisical with comments such as "I make sure what is beyond the target as best I can". I know for a fact what is behind all my shots for a long ways. I would hate to hear "well I thought that bullet would stay on my little chunk of land" after it hit me, my family, or my property. Bottom line, be safe. I'm not going to argue with you about small tract hunting, but be aware that if you go about it wrong, you will be without hunting all together because you will be fenced out.


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