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Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 01:18 PM
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dwmoore
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Last yr I ordered a rugar staniless 25.06 and have not been happy with the pattern it shoots .I have tried different brands of shells not any difference .3 shots usally takes a fifty cent piece to cover it.My 22 250 has me spoiled it will lay 3 shots with all of them toughing each other.Everything has had the carp tightened out of it and the barrel is not touching the stock.Is there anything that can be done by a gunsmith to help this gun?Darrell
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 01:25 PM
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What kind of bullets are you shooting? Factory or handloads? try differnt types of bullets and see what they does. Some guns like some ammo more than others. How about the optics? Is everything sound there?
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 01:30 PM
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dwmoore
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I am shooting factory loads .I put a new 3x9 scope on it new when I got gun.If no one has had simular probs I would have to start with the scope I guess.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 02:20 PM
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Try different ammunition and bullet weights. Sometimes the smallest change help the most.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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#1068341
11/29/09 07:10 PM
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dwmoore
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Thanks guys I have tried rem and win. guess I will try some other brands and see how they work.Darrell
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 07:21 PM
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killemall
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My ruger does not shoot much tighter than that. Are you shooting that group on a sled? I would not think you would get the same group as with a 22-250. My only gripe with the ruger though is the trigger. It's a little heavy which does not help with the kind of groups you want to shoot.Mine is not floated and has a wood stock. I am using a luepold vx 2 on it. You may try to have some hand loads done. Someone who is good will get tighter tolerances on a handload especially with the bullet seating.
Last edited by killemall; 11/29/09 07:23 PM.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 07:34 PM
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dwmoore
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Yes Im shooting on a sled .My buddies 25.06 rem shoots a perfect pattern.I alway thought that ruger was top of the line.Love the gun just like to drive tacks with one.We shoot alot of hogs and I shoot for the ear and this gun is not just exactly shooting the way I want.Won alot of turkey shoots with the rem just wish this ruger was alittle better.Darrell
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 08:00 PM
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Not to ask a dumb question but your not using the ranch version are you? 25-06 does not like a short barrel. Incomplete burn.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 08:29 PM
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dwmoore
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No sir its a regular length.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 10:56 PM
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Not to ask a dumb question but your not using the ranch version are you? 25-06 does not like a short barrel. Incomplete burn. Have to disagree with that. Powder is burned in the first few inches of the barrel. A short barrel 25/06 may be loud and may lose a few fps, but it can be very accurate.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 11:04 PM
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The two brands you're using aren't the only name brands out there. Try some federal rounds.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/29/09 11:11 PM
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One more thing to try is the torque on the action screws. If the manual doesn't give the proper torque, you could probably do a quick search on the internet to find out what works best for others. Some like 'em tight as can be, others maybe just snug. Might maybe be worth messing with?
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 01:07 AM
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Rugers are great guns but every other one shoots differently. My buddy has a varmint model in .308 and it will one hole, but I know another guy with the same gun that will barely hold a 2 inch group at 100. They are really tough rifles but they are pretty hit or miss when it comes to accuracy.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 01:23 AM
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Not to ask a dumb question but your not using the ranch version are you? 25-06 does not like a short barrel. Incomplete burn. Have to disagree with that. Powder is burned in the first few inches of the barrel. A short barrel 25/06 may be loud and may lose a few fps, but it can be very accurate. +2. Definately NOT an incomplete burn. Just lots of sound and fury..... But getting back to the original post, 3 shots covered by four bits seems to be fine hunting accuracy to me. Now, if you're loading for prairie dogs, you'll want better groups. But if you want a deer/pronghorn rifle, that kind of accuracy is more than adequate for field conditions. I doubt 2% of us are good enough field shots to take advantage of better accuracy from a rifle........that is, unless we haul around a benchrest while hunting.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 01:32 AM
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Mine likes Hornady 117gr SST's
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 03:25 AM
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dwmoore
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Thanks guy for all the help will do more checking and get back with yall.Im a neck shooter on deer never shot one anywhere else and never had one take a single step.I just want to be sure when I squeeze it hits the mark.We love to make long head shots on hogs kinda our game we got plenty ofem.Darrell
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 06:10 AM
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If a stock, sporter weight factory rifle will shoot the first two brands of ammo you try into 50 cent piece-sized groups, you are very fortunate, and have gotten a jewel....can't expect much more, unless you let a good 'smith work it over.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 03:48 PM
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If a stock, sporter weight factory rifle will shoot the first two brands of ammo you try into 50 cent piece-sized groups, you are very fortunate, and have gotten a jewel....can't expect much more, unless you let a good 'smith work it over. +1, most people should be thrilled to find a factory fifle shooting faftory ammo into groups this size.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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11/30/09 09:24 PM
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Tighter isn't always better. Especially on a wooden stock.
Most factory rifles come pressure bedded: they aren't supposed to fully float and fully floating them will not usually help and might hurt group size.
She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.
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Re: Help with 25.06
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12/01/09 02:46 AM
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50 cent piece is what one inch? So you are shooting once inch groups right? Have you considered that the 22-250 is just a more accurate gun?
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Re: Help with 25.06
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12/01/09 04:10 AM
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Re: Help with 25.06
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#1097184
12/11/09 02:39 AM
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+2 on the 117 gr hornady sst That's what my Ruger #1 loves
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Re: Help with 25.06
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12/11/09 04:36 PM
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A nickel is a tad over 3/4" so I am betting a 50 cent piece is closer to 2" than 1"
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Re: Help with 25.06
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12/12/09 06:28 PM
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No sir its a regular length. How long is regular length?
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Re: Help with 25.06
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12/12/09 06:53 PM
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Just sell it, it's not worth the trouble to make it have to shoot accurately! Some are shooters others are just nice to look at. Of course this is assuming the rings are tight and nobody's ammo is perferred.
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