anyone know what happened to the "six point on one side rule"????

never hear of the 6 on one side rule??

it was there when they first started it, not sure when they removed it.

basically it stated that u could kill a buck 13 in greater, slick antlered, or with more than 6 pnts on one side.

If you like what you have now before the AR's then you will not like the AR's.

If you don't like your results now, give the AR's a few years and then decide how you feel about them then.

It's not an overnight fix, and we were under them about six years, but I started to see the results about three years ago, and since then, every year has been better and better, and I'm on a low fenced 400 farm, and heavy hunting pressure all around.

I hunted our place for years and just figured it was a meat hunt, and nothing else, because you had to shoot fast or the buck you missed would jump the fence and someone else got it, so it was a me first and the fastest gun won.

Now I get excited about hunting there, and I know I have a chance at a wall hanger, and it's still free so it's icing on the cake.

Yesterday took a nine point that was with another buck almost the same size, and just a few years ago I'd never have believed this place would produce a buck like the one I got.

I think they're good for the most part.....but I also wish there was a way for them to put an "age clause" in the rule too.

Like a buck has to be greater than 13".....OR.....at least 4.5 years old. But I do understand that would be impossible to enforce.....so I guess we'll just have to live with it.

To those of you with leases or property in AR counties.....if you don't like them, why not just enlist your property in the MLD program? If you're in MLD 2 or 3......the AR's no longer apply.

thanks for all the input

We are 3 years in for our county and I thnk it is helping. Not as many babies 8's and 10's at the meat locker with the 10" spread.

why you gotta jack with me... & here I was thinking I was going to have a good night.

I can kind of see what the AR's are for but then again nothing that I have read tells me what benifit Ar's bring to the table other than to let deer reach maturity. I can't say that I have ever seen a post on here saying that a 2.5 year old taste better than a 5 year old deer. When I first started hunting with my dad I remember how exciting it was to see a deer, if it was a buck then it was even better. My dad never said well maybe we should wait on a 12 point or that deer is only 2 years old. He was proud no matter what was taken, cause in the end he couldnt cut some tenderloin or backstrap out fast enough. Gun safety and shot placement was more important for me to learn. So I have always hunted that way, always just happy to take a deer. So I guess the point I am getting at is, kind of makes me mad that I have a law telling me what type of buck I can shoot. Do I want to shoot a big wall hanger that I can mount, sure, but it will be hanging right next to my 4 point, 6 point and spike that's hanging there now.

Gotta love this arguement...



Even had TPWD suggest it to me.

WHY PASS A FLAWED REGULATION THEN OFFER A PROGRAM TO AVOID THE FLAWS ???????

thought about it and didn't like the suggested doe harvest we got from TPWD.

Not saying herd management is nonsense... just the changing genetics via culling...Smiple statement you can't change genetics on LF via culling... The only things you can control.

1) habibat and feed
2) population numbers to a degree
3) age of what you shoot

B/C
1) You can't control dispersal to and from your ranch
2) You can't regulate to a "t" what breeds what
3) You can't look at a doe and tell what part of the antler gene she has
4) You can't look at young bucks antlers and tell what he will be when mature.

if you think you can make a differance culling for genetics on low fence knock your self out. The king Ranch couldn't do it with more resources then 98 percent of us, not to mention they used 20k acres as thier study.

a Cull is nothing more then a buck that won't count or sell as a throphy. You wont change the genetics on a LF ranch unless you shot, his sister, his momma, his grand mother, his great grand mother ect...

now if you want to shot that deer to lower population numbers cool, but don't think for a minute you are changing the genetics. Genetis are fun topic becuase nothing is every black and white and aparent from year to year.

Smiple AR is a blanket program... MLD is more tailored to the specific ranch

LMAO ....Sleep well?

not at all, get to go home this weekend, sleep is on the back burner.

Fork, Buchanan, Lewisvile, Cooper, Texoma, Roberts, oh...........sorry, wrong thread...

Nice.. Think I'm headed south this weekend then heanding north for thanksgiving to the land of giants : )

Good luck I see a 140 plus eight in the near future for you

perhaps...lol, I might need to go put the other one that keeps getting bullets flung at him out of his misery.

Did the wife figure out that you adjusted her scope 10 inches high yet

lol, no and I would never, ever, ever in a million years do such a thing.... I'de end up getting gut shot due to it shooting 10" high.

A lot of landowners don't want any part of MLD or LAMPS.... landowners are well aware of the implications of "we're from the government and we're here to help".

Leasee's can't control what programs they are in, and in fact, some will be non-renewed for mentioning any government program to the landowner.

One place close to us went LAMPS, and their harvest numbers went down.... same year everyone else around them went up with AR's (yes implementation of AR's in Red River County expanded harvest from 1 buck only to FOUR, 2 buck 2 antlerless).

So if the state's tailored program for one place had lower numbers, why did the surrounding areas have a higher bag limit?

Voodoo science...

So if the state's tailored program for one place had lower numbers, why did the surrounding areas have a higher bag limit?

Voodoo science...

I agree its not for everyone.. I think Fannin sounds more like the excpetion then a rule... I truely think the increased bag limits and spike tags for AR's was a polictical ploy to get the AR passed... appeasement thing. IMO