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How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/16/09 03:50 PM
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How would one go about tagging a 1 horned deer? ....
I know with a buck tag but how would you document it? Deer with 1 horn broken off at the base and no branch.
Just wondering and no I have not seen or shot one YET!
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/16/09 04:04 PM
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you tape the tag to the horn, or am I not understanding the question?
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/16/09 04:05 PM
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Not really sure what you are asking here. I assume you are referring to the log on the back of your license. You only have to mark it as buck or antlerless, and if it is more than 13" in AR county. Obviously, it isn't more than 13", so just mark it as a buck. Pretty straight forward.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/16/09 05:11 PM
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If the one antler is branched its not a legal buck in an antler restriction county because it meets neither of these conditions "at least one unbranched antler" or "inside spread of 13 inches or greater"
Don't guess I see the reasoning behind no antler=1 unbranched antler
That would make a doe a legal buck
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/16/09 06:12 PM
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1 horn with points and one horn that is broken off.
Talking this weekend about ways that someone could get around the AR things.
Big ones line-up, little ones bunch-up
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/16/09 06:41 PM
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 02:45 PM
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Talking this weekend about ways that someone could get around the AR things. You can't, legally you have to let that buck walk.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 05:23 PM
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Talking this weekend about ways that someone could get around the AR things. You can't, legally you have to let that buck walk. Not true, you would tag it as a spike. If both antlers are not branched than it is a spike and the 13" rule does not apply.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 07:20 PM
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Not true, you would tag it as a spike. If both antlers are not branched than it is a spike and the 13" rule does not apply. Completely wrong, Again... Don't guess I see the reasoning behind no antler=1 unbranched antler That would make a doe a legal buck For you to tag it as a spike/cull, it has to have AT LEAST one unbranched antler, NO ANTLER AT ALL DOES NOT QUALIFY!!!
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 07:21 PM
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he said it is broke off, which means that their is probably something still theree.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 07:28 PM
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he said it is broke off, which means that their is probably something still theree. If there is at least one inch of antler left he would be legal, if not he's not. The buck may or may not have been legal per the antler restriction before it broke that side off, but you can't make that call. Call and ask your local game warden if you don't believe me, but he will give you the same answer I have just explained. It is kind of loophole in the law, and they might need look at changing it in the future.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 07:33 PM
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Do you mean a deer like this? He would be legal in an AR county, because the one antler he does have, is UNbranched.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 07:46 PM
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If the antler is just broke off and theres clearly some antler left than you can shoot him. And to explain the figures that Bossbowman posted up, to be counted a point, the projection must be at least one inch long, with the length exceeding width at one inch or more of length. just FYI. And you would mark it as a buck if the other antler is branched, pretty simple
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 08:05 PM
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Not true, you would tag it as a spike. If both antlers are not branched than it is a spike and the 13" rule does not apply. Completely wrong, Again... Don't guess I see the reasoning behind no antler=1 unbranched antler That would make a doe a legal buck For you to tag it as a spike/cull, it has to have AT LEAST one unbranched antler, NO ANTLER AT ALL DOES NOT QUALIFY!!! You are wrong. It does have at least one unbranched antler. Show me where it says it has to have anything on the other side. You are reading into something that does not need read into. It does not say it has to have two antlers. It has a dang antler, just one. Doesn't say anywhere that is has to have two. The unbranched antler part only comes into play if BOTH antlers are branched. It can have a spike on one side, and nothing on the other, or it can have 100 points on the other side, it is irrelevant.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 08:07 PM
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But a nubbing buck just has to break the skin. Not be an inch long.
If if broke off at the pedicle, and there is antler base there, that has broken the skin. unbranched antler is all that is left.
"If age structure is deemed to be valuable to management,...What percentage change in age structure or condition does TPWD recognize that it needs to detect in order to trigger a regulatory change? TPWD
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 08:07 PM
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he said it is broke off, which means that their is probably something still theree. If there is at least one inch of antler left he would be legal, if not he's not. The buck may or may not have been legal per the antler restriction before it broke that side off, but you can't make that call. Call and ask your local game warden if you don't believe me, but he will give you the same answer I have just explained. It is kind of loophole in the law, and they might need look at changing it in the future. Where does it say it has to have an antler on each side? No where does it say it. If it has one spike it is a legal spike.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 08:09 PM
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Do you mean a deer like this? He would be legal in an AR county, because the one antler he does have, is UNbranched. Thank you someone gets it. Wow, never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined this would have even been a question.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 09:23 PM
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Thank you someone gets it.
Wow, never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined this would have even been a question.
No kidding. People that can't understand the rules shouldn't be aloowed to hunt.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 09:43 PM
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I think you are correct in your wording but he said "1 horn with points and one horn that is broken off". With points (more than one) is not a spike if the other side is missing. NOT legal in a AR county IMO.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 09:55 PM
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You are reading into something that does not need read into. It does not say it has to have two antlers. It has a dang antler, just one. Doesn't say anywhere that is has to have two. The unbranched antler part only comes into play if BOTH antlers are branched. It can have a spike on one side, and nothing on the other, or it can have 100 points on the other side, it is irrelevant. I'm really not sure whether you are arguing with me or agreeing but I will put it into pictures to more simply explain.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 09:59 PM
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You are reading into something that does not need read into. It does not say it has to have two antlers. It has a dang antler, just one. Doesn't say anywhere that is has to have two. The unbranched antler part only comes into play if BOTH antlers are branched. It can have a spike on one side, and nothing on the other, or it can have 100 points on the other side, it is irrelevant. I'm really not sure whether you are arguing with me or agreeing but I will put it into pictures to more simply explain. Where did you get these pics? Because my book does not have those. Did you edit those pics?
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 09:59 PM
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he said it is broke off, which means that their is probably something still theree. If there is at least one inch of antler left he would be legal, if not he's not. The buck may or may not have been legal per the antler restriction before it broke that side off, but you can't make that call. Call and ask your local game warden if you don't believe me, but he will give you the same answer I have just explained. It is kind of loophole in the law, and they might need look at changing it in the future. One inch to be considered a point, not an antler. Protruding through the skin is the definition of an antler.
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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11/17/09 10:00 PM
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Boss your are going to have to post a link to those pics.
Doctored TPWD pics don't count.
"If age structure is deemed to be valuable to management,...What percentage change in age structure or condition does TPWD recognize that it needs to detect in order to trigger a regulatory change? TPWD
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Re: How to tag 1 horned deer?
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I think you are correct in your wording but he said "1 horn with points and one horn that is broken off". With points (more than one) is not a spike if the other side is missing. NOT legal in a AR county IMO.
How do you figure? The book says at least on unbranched antler. It doesn't say it has to have two antlers.
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