Dan the Man
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This weekend I put up a triod stand in a spot that I've wanted to for several seasons but avoided because it was next to the property line. It's near a spot where the property actually borders three other tracts (four corner fence post) two of which are open pasture. This means that my tract, and only one adjacent tracts that isn't hunted, carry good deer habitat (hardwood bottom).
So then, doesn't the fact that my tract offers the best deer habitat make it more ethical for my stand to be there? There is a fence line between the two pasture tracts with a good amount of cover that forms a funnel into and out of my tract.
Comments.
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Dan,
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Edited by Dan the Man (10/06/08 11:59 AM)
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Sethfish
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it is an ethical issue, so did you put up the stand. 
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wellingtontx
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Loc: Collingsworth County, Texas
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Didnt you answer your own question or at least rationalize the answer ?
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TexasWITETALE
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Loc: Texas
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I don't think it's an issue if you're not hunting over the fence line. At my lease, the neighbor has a box blind less than 20 yards from the fence on a road that runs parallel to the fence. I have a bow stand in the woods about 50 yards from the same fence on a known trail where the deer cross between the two properties. It depends which way the deer are heading and who's sleeping at the time they pass through!
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TX_Huntress
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TexasWITETALE, agreed. 
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Big_Orn
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I see no problem.
What I had to deal with is the previous landowner next to me setting up his stand and feeder right on the property line not 100 yards from my stand. I told him about it twice before he moved them.
Right now I have a stand sitting right on top of the fence on another place. I have talked to the hunters that lease the adjacent property and they don't hunt that area. I made it clear to them that if they wanted to hunt that area, that I was not going to move regardless of where they put their stand. It's sort of an unwritten law - first come, first served. They agreed. It's just common courtesy, IMHO.
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Nathan_at_Fork
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As long as you dont shoot over the property line or trail a wounded animal off your property without permission, there shouldnt be a problem as to where you put your stand on your own property.
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Rem270man
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Reged: 09/28/08
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Loc: East Texas
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Agreed.
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Hoytman
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I agree with BIG-ORN, who ever puts up the stand first and as long as you stay on your side and dont shoot over the fence shouldnt be a problem and if they dont like it who cares.
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Dave Davidson
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I have a stand on a fence line. I need to get my butt there and clear it. I won't shoot over the line but will smoke them when they get on my property.
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Curtis
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Loc: Gonzales, Texas
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Just what if.
You set up about 40-50 yards from a property line after finding some trails and deer sign in that area. Later you find out from some friends or your neighbor or whatever after season has started that about the same distance away on the other side, thru very thick brush and about 40-50 yards away on the opposite side, is a protein and corn feeder set up.
Your neighbor doesn't bow hunt, but does rifle hunt. You bow hunt.
Would you continue to hunt your property in your same set up?
Would you talk with the neighbor at all about it?
Just curious.
I probably wouldn't metion anything to the neighbor and bow hunt the area. But rifle season, I may move away from there as fear of him shooting in that direction to me when he was deer hunting during the general season.
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Big_Orn
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(1) If you are new to the area - always schedule a meeting with the neighbors - even if they don't hunt. Let them get to know you and you them - tell them where you are hunting and how.
(2) If a new neighbor moves in, be sure to talk to him/her before they get started with stands, feeders, food plots. They may not even think that someone is hunting on the property line. Clear things up right off the bat.
I know some folks don't care where you're setup and will just plop down where they see fit. These are the low-lifes of the hunting world, the ones that will selfishly abuse their "rights".
I know it's corny, but I thank God I have good neighbors.
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Sabrinavonbach
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You're quite correct. A landowner or his lesse unless specifically prohibited can put anything on his property where ever or whenever he wants. There is no unwritten rule, the rest is common courtesy and good mannners.
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texas8point
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Maybe not be the ideal situation, BUTTT its not illegal.
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BenBob
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If you own the land and are doing nothing illegal, then there is really no questions to be answered. The ideal thing is to talk to your neighbor and get some things sorted out before any type of problems arise. But if he has a feeder close to the fenceline, I have as much right to hunt on my land on a trail created by traffic heading to his feeder as he does in setting up the feeder in the first place, not that I would want to do it, but I have the right to do it. Heck, with the high price of land, if you eliminate the 100 yards or so along the fencelines, some of us only have a core area of about 50 acres to hunt, if you know what I mean. If the bordering landowner wants to set up the Ringling Brothers Circus on his side of the fence, I would not like it, but I doubt there is very much I could do about it. Common sense and getting to know your neighbors will usually dictate the correct thing to do, but isn't that really the case in most problems?
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Dave Davidson
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I believe Orn is right about meeting the neighbors. Common courtesy, good manners and COMMON SENSE are a pretty important deal to me.
I figure that if a neighbor puts a feeder on the fence line I will hunt the fence line (my side only). On a lot of places, that may be the only cleared area.
Several years ago some guys were leasing the place next to me. In front of my house, I usually plant 3 acres of wheat. We don't hunt it but like to watch the deer there. These guys put up a stand on the fence line on a trail leading to my house wheat patch. Their stand is less than 75 yards from the house. I talked to them about it but, as they said, it was legal. After they had taken a couple of immature bucks, I went to the barber shop and collected a weeks worth of hair. Hair, a jug of kerosene, a bunch of urine urine and diesel changed the deers travel habits. Since I had to trespass, I was doing something illegal. OK.
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llbts1
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I had put up a stand 75 yards from my fence. A year later the land next to the fence is leased out, and the hunter puts a stand right next to the fence, along with a feeder. I put up No Tresspassing and No Hunting signs right on the fence in plain sight for him. If I see a shooter heading toward his feeder, on my side of the fence, or right next to the fence on my side, with him in his blind, I will shoot it. With little consideration for me and my blind, I find myself very little concerned with his hunting experience.
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ak_hunter
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The issue of hunting along fence lines I believe is an unethical practice. If a hunter knowingly selects to place a blind and feeder within 50 yards of a fence, without prior arangement or discussion with the neighbors, this shows the character of the individual in general. What is to stop this unethical person from performing other unethical and illegal practices, such as shooting across a fence line, crossing fence lines, shooting after hours, etc. Ethical practice of placing a blind could be eliminated, as brought up previously, by discussing with neighbors first.
We have a situation in which a new group of hunters last year placed a blind within spitting distance of our fence line and the feeder the same distance from the fence 40 yards away. We own our land and they are leasing theirs from an absentee owner who utilizes a lease broker for hunting rights. On our side of the fence is a mesquite thicket, on there side of the fence is a wheat field. Therefore they have choosen to place the blind/feeder between the fence and the wide open wheat field, obviously with the idea that the deer would leave our property pass by their stand/feeder to hit the wheat field. We have attempted to approach the neighbors, but any time we see them at the blind/feeder, they leave immediately without even a word. We placed No Tresspassing signs last year, which have been shot with a shot gun. Don't get me wrong, both our place and their place is out west with lots of acres to hunt. And the deer are free-ranging, but this is type of activity is in very poor taste.
This year we have taken a more proactive approach, by creating a road along our fence line, placing a stand on our side of the fence within 10 yards of their feeder, and pouring diesel and mothballs along our side of the fence to discourage game from utilizing that crossing area. And, come rifle season we will drive the road every day-stopping to turn on a small radio in our tree blasting music. Do deer like Spanish music?
We have talked about high fenceing the 600-800 yards to eleminate the deer crossing that area, but have you seen the latest price on high fence?
The way I see it, if the neighbors who lease the property are unwilling to 'man-up' and discuss, then they are obviously unsavory characters. We intend to make the area on our side of the fence as unwelcome to deer as possible. That is all we can do.
Every situation is different, but the bottomline is open discussion can eliminate potential problems.
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Hoytman
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I guess cause i have 47 acres and a stand on each corner of my property facing in towards the interior i am unethical! I dont shoot across any property lines and my so called neighbor came over the fence and destroyed my ladder stand and cut my feeder down! How ethical is that! I only show courtesy to people that deserve it. I know alot of different situations out there but i was there long before my ahole neighbor was there and as long as i stay on my property there shouldnt be a problem but he made a problem and now its get even time! 
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ak_hunter
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Yes sir, blinds on the corners are unethical. Tresspassing and personal propety damage is illegal. If I were you I would try to speak with your neighbors as well as speak with the sherriff.
It is not an issue of who was there first. How would you feel if they placed a blind on thier side of the fence? Would you be bitter that they had encroached into your hunt area, even though it was legally on their side of the fence?Would it ruin or damper your hunting experience?
Same situation holds true for people hunting on the same property when blinds are placed to close together. Did the hunters talk? How does one person feel about the other's blind location, etc.?
Although legal, placing blinds directly on any fence line is morally unacceptable, when you ask yourself the question what would my neighbor think about this?
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wellingtontx
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"This year we have taken a more proactive approach, by creating a road along our fence line, placing a stand on our side of the fence within 10 yards of their feeder, and pouring diesel and mothballs along our side of the fence to discourage game from utilizing that crossing area. And, come rifle season we will drive the road every day-stopping to turn on a small radio in our tree blasting music. Do deer like Spanish music?"
Understand the frustration but this will get the GW called. Don't lower yourself to this standard,,,maintain the high road.
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Hoytman
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Tryed the high road and it didnt work and the warden said as long as i dont have pics of em tearing up my stuff there is nothing he can do, just like my other neighbor and i use that word loosley that wont fix his fence and keep his cattle off my food plots and from knocking my feeders over! I guess it works both ways as long as i dont get caught in the act its ok and nothing can be done. I tried the turn the other cheek method and it didnt work now its the dont get mad get even method. I dont like being that way but being nice dont work. Luckley i have 2 good neighbors who i will do anything for and vice versa.
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BenBob
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The issue of hunting along fence lines I believe is an unethical practice. If a hunter knowingly selects to place a blind and feeder within 50 yards of a fence, without prior arangement or discussion with the neighbors, this shows the character of the individual in general. What is to stop this unethical person from performing other unethical and illegal practices, such as shooting across a fence line, crossing fence lines, shooting after hours, etc. Ethical practice of placing a blind could be eliminated, as brought up previously, by discussing with neighbors first.
We have a situation in which a new group of hunters last year placed a blind within spitting distance of our fence line and the feeder the same distance from the fence 40 yards away. We own our land and they are leasing theirs from an absentee owner who utilizes a lease broker for hunting rights. On our side of the fence is a mesquite thicket, on there side of the fence is a wheat field. Therefore they have choosen to place the blind/feeder between the fence and the wide open wheat field, obviously with the idea that the deer would leave our property pass by their stand/feeder to hit the wheat field. We have attempted to approach the neighbors, but any time we see them at the blind/feeder, they leave immediately without even a word. We placed No Tresspassing signs last year, which have been shot with a shot gun. Don't get me wrong, both our place and their place is out west with lots of acres to hunt. And the deer are free-ranging, but this is type of activity is in very poor taste.
This year we have taken a more proactive approach, by creating a road along our fence line, placing a stand on our side of the fence within 10 yards of their feeder, and pouring diesel and mothballs along our side of the fence to discourage game from utilizing that crossing area. And, come rifle season we will drive the road every day-stopping to turn on a small radio in our tree blasting music. Do deer like Spanish music?
We have talked about high fenceing the 600-800 yards to eleminate the deer crossing that area, but have you seen the latest price on high fence?
The way I see it, if the neighbors who lease the property are unwilling to 'man-up' and discuss, then they are obviously unsavory characters. We intend to make the area on our side of the fence as unwelcome to deer as possible. That is all we can do.
Every situation is different, but the bottomline is open discussion can eliminate potential problems.
Doesn't seem to me that talking did you much good if you have to drive around with Spanish music blaring everyday of deer season. Talking is a start and I encourage it, but just because a landowner has a blind on a fenceline or within 50 yards of a fenceline does not make them immoral. What you do wihin the boundaries of your own land if the act is legal is pretty much your own business. If you own the land on both sides of the fence, can you hunt the fenceline? I would rather have someone hunting on the fenceline shooting back into their own property than 100 yards into their property and shooting back towards me and my property. Next thing you will be telling me what kind of stock I can run on my land and where I can drill a waterwell, etc. Don't forget, it is my land. A little bit of common sense goes a long way, but your idea of common sense is not necessarily my idea of common sense.
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Hoytman
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amen benbob!
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texasd
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Yes sir, blinds on the corners are unethical. Tresspassing and personal propety damage is illegal. If I were you I would try to speak with your neighbors as well as speak with the sherriff. "
putting blinds on fence lines is unethical is horse chit...we had them on our fence line... we bought a couple hundred acres of land in the middle of a ranch that the wife and husband divorced and didnt want to be neibhors.(sp) so we cut the path thru the black brush, pulled wesatch, dug up cactus , drove the fence post thru the caliche during the summer with temps around 105 in duval county and maintain that fence in perfect condition with a road all the way around.. and you tell me it unethical to put my blinds on that fence line?  thats crap... we never shot across fence lines or climb to the other side... yes i looked over there cause i get excited about the possibilty of seeing a monster but was brought up not hunt game illegally or cross a fence that the property on the other side doesnt belong to me.......down here and years ago u crossed that fence or hunted a piece of property that wasnt yours the best thing to happen to you was get caught by the gw cause you sure the hell didnt want the land owner to catch u cause he would be the only one that knew he caught you... oh and for worrying about my niebhors putting blinds along the same fence.....years later the wife sold her side and the new owners cleared a road next to the fence and put there blind ... didnt bother me a bit cause i wasnt hunting there side.........
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