kktjhahn
Woodsman
Reged: 08/15/07
Posts: 131
Loc: Lubbock, Tx
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Our 5 mo old Lab has duodectic mange, the vet has dipped her twice but it is only looking worse. Has anyone here had any experience with this. Should I change vets? Very frustrated.
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Mathews Bows
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MaggieMTx
THF Trophy Hunter
Reged: 10/03/06
Posts: 5245
Loc: Burkett area in Coleman County...
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its demodectic mange, try a google search on it just to double check the vets actions, try this:
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/mange1.html
or
http://www.barkbytes.com/MEDICAL/med0019.htm
or
http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/beaglehealth_demodecticmange.htm
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Is currently at Damuth Taxidery in Brady, Tx
"LIFE IS TOUGH...AND IT'S TOUGHER IF YOU'RE STUPID"...JOHN WAYNE
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kktjhahn
Woodsman
Reged: 08/15/07
Posts: 131
Loc: Lubbock, Tx
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THanks the one that uses ivomec seems to be the best chance of doing something different.
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Mathews Bows
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bobcatt
Woodsman
Reged: 12/11/05
Posts: 173
Loc: Temple, TX
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my experience is that it could take some time for the pup to get over it, month or two maybe.
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MaggieMTx
THF Trophy Hunter
Reged: 10/03/06
Posts: 5245
Loc: Burkett area in Coleman County...
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If the vet had treated it, give it time to work even tho it may not look like its working.
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11-8-08....10 pt....151 gross...170 plus lbs
Is currently at Damuth Taxidery in Brady, Tx
"LIFE IS TOUGH...AND IT'S TOUGHER IF YOU'RE STUPID"...JOHN WAYNE
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kktjhahn
Woodsman
Reged: 08/15/07
Posts: 131
Loc: Lubbock, Tx
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Thanks, just breaks my heart everytime I look at her, makes me feel like I have not done enough 
Guess I have to trust what the vet is doing for now.
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Mathews Bows
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dawaba
Woodsman
Reged: 10/22/06
Posts: 207
Loc: DFW, Throckmorton Co., Anderso...
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The dips with Mitaban are the ONLY FDA-approved method of treating demodectic mange in dogs. It reqires 4-6 dippings every two weeks. The condition may get worse before it resolves. So, you're just getting started; don't despair. Your dog will likely be cured using this treatment.
Having said that, some cases don't clear up with Mitaban. In our practice, we'll then try ivermectin. This alternate treatment uses a cattle wormer that shows great promise and efficacy in dogs. BUT, it is NOT currently approved for use in dogs as a treatment for demodectic mange.
Your vet is following protocol in treating your dog. Stay the course.
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kktjhahn
Woodsman
Reged: 08/15/07
Posts: 131
Loc: Lubbock, Tx
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Thanks but they are only dipping once every two weeks? Should I ask for more?
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MaggieMTx
THF Trophy Hunter
Reged: 10/03/06
Posts: 5245
Loc: Burkett area in Coleman County...
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Like with any doctors (human or pet) a second opinion wouldnt hurt.
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11-8-08....10 pt....151 gross...170 plus lbs
Is currently at Damuth Taxidery in Brady, Tx
"LIFE IS TOUGH...AND IT'S TOUGHER IF YOU'RE STUPID"...JOHN WAYNE
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dawaba
Woodsman
Reged: 10/22/06
Posts: 207
Loc: DFW, Throckmorton Co., Anderso...
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Once every two weeks is correct--for four to six sessions. Sorry I was vague in my previous post.
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kktjhahn
Woodsman
Reged: 08/15/07
Posts: 131
Loc: Lubbock, Tx
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Thank you all for the help, just want to make sure I am doing everything for her! I will post pics when she gets better, she is super sweet.
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steadypoint
Light Foot
Reged: 10/12/07
Posts: 33
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You should also go ahead and put a preventic collar on the dog. The active ingredient on the Preventic collar is Amitraz, just like the Mitaban has in it. It is best to keep one of those on the dog all of them time while dipping with the mitaban every to weeks.
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Rwuensch
Veteran Tracker
Reged: 03/29/07
Posts: 3270
Loc: Magnolia, TX
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Not sure this is approved, or even legal but here goes.
My dog in grade school came down with mange and my dad covered it with burn motor oil. I mean head to tow for an hour or so. Did it twice if I remember. All gone.
Oh yea, shave the dog 1st.
I hear it works the same for crabs.
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coolaggiemgr
Green Horn
Reged: 10/27/07
Posts: 2
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Please don't put your used motor oil on your dogs...the mitaban and/or ivermectin will usually work in time. The hair loss will get worse before it gets better. The main issue is with the pup's immune system. The medications will help kill the mites until the dog's immune system is strong enough to keep the mites under control. Even after the mites are under control, there will be a possibility of another outbreak after a high stress situation.
Other than the posibility of a secondary skin infection and the hair loss, demodex is not a major health issue. The preventic collar will help and would be a good idea to keep on the dog all of the time. If you plan to hunt the lab, the collar will help keep repel ticks which carry several diseases that are much worse than demodex.
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olinecoach
Outdoorsman
Reged: 12/08/07
Posts: 53
Loc: Del Rio Texas
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I guess this shows my age but burnt lub oil was the only thing ever used for Mange back in the 60's and 70's. My Dads' college room mate at Aggie Land was Head of the Small Animals Vet Program still recomended this until he died in about 1998. Something don't just quit working!
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dawaba
Woodsman
Reged: 10/22/06
Posts: 207
Loc: DFW, Throckmorton Co., Anderso...
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Quote:
I guess this shows my age but burnt lub oil was the only thing ever used for Mange back in the 60's and 70's. My Dads' college room mate at Aggie Land was Head of the Small Animals Vet Program still recomended this until he died in about 1998. Something don't just quit working!
Would this be Dr. Robert Playter? Or who? Crankcase oil to treat mange is QUACKERY in the first degree. Please educate us more...
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coolie76
Bird Dog
Reged: 12/20/06
Posts: 261
Loc: Ennis, TX
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Kerosene,vinegar, and egg whites. The egg whites keep the kerosene from burning the dog's skin. Quack,quack,quack. I just know it works.
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gary roberson
Light Foot
Reged: 09/18/08
Posts: 43
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This is not a joke. Mix up powdered sulfur and bacon grease into a paste until it makes a thick goo. Rub it all over the dog's hot spots or whole body. The dog will lick a lot of it off and that is a good thing for the sulfur that they ingest will deter any critters that are causing the problem. You are actually treating the problem from the inside and out. If the dog gets too much of the sulfur and bacon grease, it will upset their stomach for a day or so. Two to three days later, treat the dog again. Last weekend,I treated my wife's four month old dash hound for hot spots. She overdosed on the stuff and made her puke and poop for a day and a half but appears to have really helped with the hot spots.
It seems any white or pink skinned dogs are proned to more problems that seem to be aggrevated by a dog that is somewhat hyper, ie pointer or walker hound.
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olinecoach
Outdoorsman
Reged: 12/08/07
Posts: 53
Loc: Del Rio Texas
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Dr. Charles Boyd Was the Vet in Grandview Texas while I was in high school. He took over the program at A@M in the mid to late 60's.
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mmcrenshaw
Bird Dog
Reged: 10/29/07
Posts: 267
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we had a pup get it a couple of years ago. we tried dipping the dog twice with no success. my best friend is my vet and he told me to get some injectable ivomec equine dewormer. i administered it orally thru a syringe. it works great. you just give it in a much smaller dose. if you want i will ask him what dosage. just let me know age and weight.
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