chevk4
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Just Something I noticed,
In the photo section why is it that the some/most deer are in the back of the a not field dressed/gutted? I do not disagree with it, however I am from Minnesota as most know. With the deer we harvest there we field dress them in the field and wrap them in a tarp when transporting in a truck.
Could this be due to wheather? {cold v.s. heat}?
Dirt and Dust?
This will be my first year going after deer in Texas, after my week in Barnum, Minnesota.
My plans are to pack a canvas tarp and some dry ice.
Dry ice in the chest cavity and a canvas tarp around the harvested animal.
I understand on hogs you can clean them, hang them, skin them, and take the back straps and front and hind quarters without field dessing the hog.
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TexasTransplant
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I'm from Illinois.
I've been in Texas since '00.
The people I know and have hunted with have all field dressed but some I've seen have hauled the animal untouched back to camp to hang it up to do the dirty work.
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helomech
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I never field dress, I have the animal back at my house in less than 15 minutes of the kill. I then clean it where it is convienent.
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HuntingTexas
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Every lease I've been on had a designated area to dump guts and carcasses so field dressing " in the field " was not an option.
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DCS
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We don't gut deer anymore. To be honest there is just not much in there that I want. Now, that I have said that I did gut a big Axis I took last year for the tenderloins, but up until then we haven't gutter a deer in probably 5 or 6 years.
When we shoot one, I hook a small trailer on the back of my 4 wheeler and back up to the animal, load him up and take it back to camp to clean it.
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Brother in-law
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You will see that alot of people don't do it in the field here, pretty normal. I don't if I have somewhere to hang it and do it.
I think dry ice is going to freezer burn your meat. Just a couple bags in the cavity will work.
You see alot of arguments come hunting season about hauling your deer with ice, w/o, uncovered/covered etc. It is kind of like a black panther post.
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chevk4
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You will see that alot of people don't do it in the field here, pretty normal. I don't if I have somewhere to hang it and do it.
I think dry ice is going to freezer burn your meat. Just a couple bags in the cavity will work.
You see alot of arguments come hunting season about hauling your deer with ice, w/o, uncovered/covered etc. It is kind of like a black panther post.
Well on the dry ice topic, Have been doing that in Wyoming and it works great. We leave ice in a few brown grocery bags and then wrapped in some towels. Never had it freezer burn the meat.
I get the Field Dressing now,
Convience and Ease
OH YEAH I SAW A BLACK PANTHER ON MY WAY HOME THIS MORNING CROSSING 75 IN PLANO!!!!!!!! 
Thanks for the info.
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Crazyhorse
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With many folks, it has become a matter of personal preference, along with the fact that it seem that many folks have gotten out of the habit of eatintg guts.
By that I mean I don't see a lot of folks anymore that want the heart/liver/kidneys.
In fact, several folks on here, can dismantle a deer including getting the tenderloins and never open the body cavity.
On my and Lora's hunt last year at TxCornhuskers, Jason and Wes showed us how to cut up a deer without opening up the body cavity, and I tried it on javelina this year and it works like a charm.
With most Texas deer, there is not that much meat on the ribs, and splitting the hide down the back, pulling out the hams/front shoulders/loins and tender loins gets easier and cleaner each time you do it to me.
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WileyCoyote
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I still like the "rock and a rope" skinnin deal and haven't gutted the last whole bunch of critters I've been around on the ground...including hogs. Used everything from a comealong to a 1 ton dually for pulling power and sure makes it fast and simple to get whatever there is to get especially hanging off a sturdy tree or a skinning Aframe. BinL made a 8-10'?? tall and a 8' feet long top rail "swing set" out of drill stem that looked like he stole it from a school yard and solid welded in one piece with no fittings bolted anywhere, complete with a boat winch and cable thru a pulley on the top rail to hoist bigger critters up high enough to work on that I wanted when when he got the big ranch south of Junction some years ago that was the best one I've ever seen...he sez if'n you can cut it up you can have it but you'll need a torch since it weighs 7-800 lbs LOL and I ain't lifting it again with a hydralic crane. Hauled out to the ranch on a 18 wheeler flatbed along with his welded 24' tall 2 man tower blinds. Hogs can take some real pulling power IMO and some guys I know simply prop them upright with all four legs splayed out to hold them in place in the field and only take back straps and hams like CHC sez from a long opening cut down the spine. A day or two later even the skeleton is usually gone. Just be sure to have more than one knife if you get a mess of hogs on the ground, and I've started carrying a leftover steel culinary sharpener to a good quick blade touchup.
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TX_Huntress
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Why open the body cavity when you don't need to? Especially if it's gut shot.  Every place we hunt has cleaning racks and running water, and then a designated area for dumping guts & whatnot. Like Crazyhorse said, you can get all the good stuff without having to go "inside".
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DCS
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In fact, several folks on here, can dismantle a deer including getting the tenderloins and never open the body cavity.
So, what is the process for getting the tender loins out without gutting them?
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PKnTX
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If you have to drag a deer for any distance
(not all areas allow or are accessible to motor vehicles)
field dressing makes ALOT of difference in the weight.
I would not think of trying to drag even a small doe
more than 100 yards or so while also carrying my rifle
w/o gutting, skin left on to protect meat.
It's all in where you hunt vs. where/when you butcher.
PK
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atascosa_red
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If you are going to haul your deer or hog to a locker plant or over the road to your house (depending on how far) you have two choices. #1, remove all you want without gutting and put on ice or #2 gutt the animal, ice in cavity and wrap in tarp and haul.
We do not need the ice. I gutt all of my animals and hang in cooler. They are usually at 33-35 degrees when I start the haul back home or to locker plant. I do wrap them in a tarp to keep road dirt off of the meat.
As far as field dressing, we used to gutt on the spot. However, since we have running water, a gutt dump, a walk-in cooler and a processing room (when we have time), we gutt at the house and haul gutts off.
Since my place is 45 minutes from my house, if I kill something on a Sunday evening, I can leave it in cooler until the next day, then I go back after work and haul to locker plant.
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Tx_Phantom
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So, what is the process for getting the tender loins out without gutting them?
+1
It doesn't bother me to open one up, but i am wanting to know how to get loins out without going inside as well.
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Crazyhorse
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After you dis-joint the hams from the pelvis, and remove the loins(backstrap), carefully cut along both sides of the spine, just below the short ribs, the little projections just in front of the hams and going up to the rib cage.
The tender loins are positioned immediately under those short ribs.
Carefully cut thru the tissue that is covering them, and simply reach in with your hand and you can usually pull the tenders out, without having to make a knife cut inside the body cavity.
It is one of those things that has to be tried a time or two, but usually the tenders can be removed by hand with nothing more than making the cuts to the membrane to allow hand access to them.
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cajundave
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I feild dress simply because it's easier to load them up on the ATV. This year, I am thinking of hanging a rope from a tree so I can haul the deer up a little to make feild dressing easier.
When I hunted deer in LA, we had a guy that lived next to our lease. We brought the deer to the hooks he had, dropped guts, skinned them, and then kept sliding the hooks into the walk in freezer to be butchered by him later. He made the best sausage in the world!
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Brother in-law
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So, what is the process for getting the tender loins out without gutting them?
+1
It doesn't bother me to open one up, but i am wanting to know how to get loins out without going inside as well.
Tender loins off 40 lb. deer aren't worth the trouble anyway  
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MaggieMTx
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We keep the heart & liver if they are salvagable. We also take every bit of meat we can get off the deer...we gut, skin & bone out the entire deer. Even the lil bit of meat between the ribs is good or can be used when grinding. Then sometimes we tie the skeleton to something & hunt yotes & fox & such off it.
If its for a hunter that doesnt want all that we still gut it & they take it or take it to the proscessor or we can quarter it out & get the backstrap & internal tenderloins. If its not cold enough we make sure is iced down or kept cold.
Most proscessors we have seen WONT take something if its not gutted.
In the case of hogs, we quarter them out WITHOUT gutting them. Just cut off the quarters, skin that & then get the backstrap.
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Tx_Phantom
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Tender loins off 40 lb. deer aren't worth the trouble anyway
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jgiles
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Depends on the temp outside and where i'm at.
I haven't gutted a deer in 4 years, quarter them up in camp.
Might change this year plan on spending more time in the field in Oct.
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texasd
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take them to camp clean and butcher then take carcass up to hill at lease and leave for some late nite coyote hunting...
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chevk4
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Most proscessors we have seen WONT take something if its not gutted.
Speaking of this, when I lived back home in Minnesota, working at Flicker Meats {family owned meat market} a Asian man {who owned the asian resturant in town} brought in a road killed, non-gutted, bloated doe that he hit one night. He demanded that we processed it for him so he could use the meat in his resturant. We sent him walking and told him his deer would be out by the dumpster. He left and we placed the doe in the bone barrel. He never came back. 
Saved many people in our town from getting sick and I never ate there again!
Thanks for all the input,
Just thought it was a "Texas" thing to not field dress a deer but I now see the light of ease.
Im installing a pulley system this week in my garage, so ill stick to field dressing, dry ice and then to processing the harvested game at home.
Thanks Again
SO HOW DO YOU FIELD DRESS A BLACK PANTHER? 
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helomech
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Most proscessors we have seen WONT take something if its not gutted.
Speaking of this, when I lived back home in Minnesota, working at Flicker Meats {family owned meat market} a Asian man {who owned the asian resturant in town} brought in a road killed, non-gutted, bloated doe that he hit one night. He demanded that we processed it for him so he could use the meat in his resturant. We sent him walking and told him his deer would be out by the dumpster. He left and we placed the doe in the bone barrel. He never came back.
Saved many people in our town from getting sick and I never ate there again!
Thanks for all the input,
Just thought it was a "Texas" thing to not field dress a deer but I now see the light of ease.
Im installing a pulley system this week in my garage, so ill stick to field dressing, dry ice and then to processing the harvested game at home.
Thanks Again
SO HOW DO YOU FIELD DRESS A BLACK PANTHER?
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS
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Gunslinger
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I feild dress simply because it's easier to load them up on the ATV.
Ditto!
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